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Hey! Thanks to the whole Reddit mess, I’ve discovered the fediverse and its increidible wonders and I’m lovin’ it :D

I’ve seen another post about karma, and after reading the comments, I can see there is a strong opinion against it (which I do share). I’d love to hear your opinions, what other method/s would you guys implement? If any ofc

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Live and let live - Best system ever 👌

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If there has to be something then probably karma that is strictly for the past month of activities.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Any shortcut method of mimicking reputation can be and thus will be abused, so they're all toxic.

The only sure way to do it is the good old-fashioned way - by name recognition - actual, earned "reputation."

The way it used to work on all forums and still does on some smaller ones is that people just read posts and write their own posts and over time they come to recognize each other's names and associate them with some impression of each individual's value as a poster.

And yes - that's not very effective in gigantic forums, and it's not accessible to newcomers. You need a relatively small group of posters and new people have to pay attention in order to figure out who are the better or worse posters. That's just the way it is, and is one of the problems with gigantic forums.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, this.

It's not like karma worked well as a reputation system, anyway. In a large forum, all it points to is that you were lucky or entertaining. It says nothing a out whether you're actually a positive influence on a space.

Post the same post as 36 other people, but because if random chance yours gets chosen to float to the top? Co gratulations, you have a severe positive karma score for life for doing nothing different from those who got nothing.

Dunk on people in a way that others think is entertaining or deserved? Bam, you're swimming in positive reputation for being an asshole.

It doesn't create healthy space. It doesn't denote that you're a net benefit to a communal space. It's not even proportionate to how well you're known.

It's just gamed fake internet points.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not a fan of this because the main thing I liked about Reddit over all the other various "social media" was that I didn't have to try to recognize names. Names didn't matter, it was all about the conversation and the subject matter. If a post or comment was good I liked it, if it was bad I disliked it, and I moved on.

RES kept track of my personal like/dislike sum for each individual, perhaps since upvotes/downvotes aren't anonymous here in the Fediverse it'd be more straightforward to do that and show that to each user.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I still firmly believe one of the worst things to happen to the internet, besides pop-up ads, is up and down votes. Nothing exposes a misanthrope quicker than forcing them to comment instead of passively downvoting everything they see. Which makes it easier to remove them from the party.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly it's pretty good to have the transparency of who is up voting, and down voting. Makes it easier to figure out who's farming or not. It's pretty good against the trolls too imo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I for one wish we could return to the lawlessness of old phpBB boards from the late 90s. Weren't no karma points to work any back then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Those boards were rife with toxicity. You’d have secret rooms with people attacking a commenter behind their back. Created a very ‘with us or against us’ vibe. Then it would hit a boiling point and spill out as a public attack on a commenter. It made the bullying premeditated and targeted.

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