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Don't think I need to summarize this one. This is bad news for everyone.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

I gotta stop using chrome on my phone 😔

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Firefox mobile supports ublock origin

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only on android unfortunately.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Two I've had good experiences with are p2.freedns.controld.com and dns.adguard-dns.com

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Earth will survive and the humans will get what they deserve.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Millions of species will go down with us, some already have been relagated to extinction by our actions.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The dinosaurs got wiped out and new life flourished. The same will happen again.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh then in that case nbd that we take millions of species who were living in harmony with nature with us. Serves them right for . . . existing in the same 20,000 year period we did.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Life is hard and unfair

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (10 children)

The dinosaurs got wiped out by a catastrophic meteor impact (or so we think). This is different. We are changing the climate at an accelerated pace that's never been seen before. Species adapt to things over time. You can't adapt if the weather isn't stable, and things dip between super hot and super cold, or visa versa, they stay super hot or super cold. We have other examples of worlds like that in our solar systems, and they are dead worlds.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There have been at least five major mass extinction events in the history of this planet. What will be after us in the future won't look like it does right now, but right now doesn't look anything like it did before any of those five events either.
As the saying goes, life finds a way. We just won't be around to witness it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (5 children)

We are changing the climate at an accelerated pace that's never been seen before.

He said, right after mentioning a catastrophic meteor impact.

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Basically it's too late to stop the process. Even if we switched to renewables entirely, there will be a lag. That lag is now in a positive feedback loop.

[–] [email protected] 127 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah like the science community was saying 10-15 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I remember some of the early research showing this when I was in college in the late 90s/early 00s. It's mostly following the worst-case scenario models from the time, except 50 - 80 years ahead of schedule.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

I started watching The Nanny a few days ago (have seen a lot on tv, but never everything) and in one of the first episodes they make a joke about being worried about Global Warming. It was lighthearted, not very serious. That was 1993.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Whether you can risk it or can't. Its time to disobey our leaders. They dont care. They've built protections for themselves. They plan on feeding us to the storms.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There will be no protection or escape from the environmental changes we'll be facing, this is not something you can just wait out in a bunker.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yep, they'll let the climate kill all of us. Because they won't truly be living either down there. I'm sure all the training courses for guard loyalty in the world won't actually do shit when you're physically down in a bunker without hopes of coming out.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If only we knew about this 50 years ago, surely we would have done something!

Big Oil: side eye Muppet meme

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fun fact: They knew since the 1950s and have been lying about it for over 70 YEARS!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Well, shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

Not to mention the tipping point where it is no longer reversible. And even worse, the huge effect that the current has on basically the whole of the globe!

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Humanity will be just another dead branch on the tree of life

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Humans are pretty resilient. Adaptable to any climate, even the mess of a climate we created.

Now, I'm not saying that all 8 billion of us will survive.

What I'm saying is, the minimum viable genetic population for humans is about 2000 individuals.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When food runs out for even a portion of those 8 billion, results are gonna be nasty.

It's hard to talk about climate initiatives when 1/3 of the planet is shooting eatch other. In worst case with nukes.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep, there will always be humans as long as there is literally anything we can hunt/forage and eat.

If that will resemble what we perceive as civilisation is another question entirely.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How much can you forage in the bush’s of human civilization? Not much grows in abandoned cites.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

So, what does this all mean for us? It means we have even less time to get our act together. Reducing emissions isn’t just a good idea — it’s crucial.

I don't think this will motivate countries to dramatically increase emissions reduction efforts, but I think it will motivate countries to begin geoengineering. Geoengineering is cheaper and easier than rapid emissions reduction, and the results are more immediate. Yes, it doesn't solve the core problem, which is the concentration of GHGs in the atmosphere, but it treats the symptom, albeit temporarily. Why put a lot of time, money, and effort into fixing the core problem when you can spend comparatively less time, money, and effort just treating the symptom? Then you can just pretend the core problem doesn't exist and go about business as usual.

Edit: sorry, I should have added the /s.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I don't think you realize what a collapsed ocean current means for us. This is existential, not business as usual. Anything we do from here on out that isn't in service of stopping this is signing our species death warrant.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Haha fricking euros enjoying their moderate climate - wait until they find out what’s real Midwest winter is like. And they want to take my truck and my gas stove? Eff them.

/too many conservatives probably

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah don't worry, Texas will get Saharan weather in exchange.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Geoengineering is cheaper and easier than rapid emissions reduction

I don't know if your whole comment is sarcasm, but every part of this statement is wrong. We are in the very, very early stages of developing the technologies needed for the level of geoengineering required to mitigate what we have already done to the environment. To roll it out to the levels needed would be far more difficult and expensive that converting our entire way of life to renewables, which should really say how hard and expensive it would be given how utterly daunting of a task full conversion to renewables is.

Now, putting in token investment and paying lip service to geoengineering, that's cheaper and easier than switching to renewables. But that's not even treating the symptoms. That's just your standard con game against the broader population to try to manipulate the conversation.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Huh. That's oddly freeing

"Oh we're all fucked guaranteed. The stress is gone"

I mean, still gonna be for eco measures and such, but it's like a weight is off my shoulders in terms of worry

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

It’s not freeing. We may have locked in some really bad changes but it can always get worse. It more critical than ever to get a handle on our green house emissions

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