Every election in America, no matter how shitty Republicans get, is 49%-51%.
This produces a rather odd dumbass effect where if it's 48%-52%, people start shouting about landslides.
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I'm going to go with the Big Lie 2 here. Trump lost the popular vote just like he did with Hilary and Biden.
Remember that his first official act as president in his first term was to send Sean Spicer out, literally on day one, to scold the press corp for seeing the paltry crowd at his inauguration. This guy is always, always just small dick energy in an ill-fitting suit.
Wow, that makes more sense in politics than it does in quantum mechanics
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Maybe we can model the quantum world on Politics.
every time a politician has to make a statement he both agrees and disagrees until he knows who the audience.
Piss on him til he fucking drowns
Especially if it's Russian piss...
He would die a happy man
So be it, long as he's dead and gone
I kinda knew the popular vote thing would correct itself, I think the reason it’s this close at all is because most people don’t pay attention to politics as much as they should
He won popular (more votes than other candidates), he did not win majority (>50% of total votes)
lmao, third parties actually threw the election
Not necessarily, he won a majority in Pennsylvania and in states like Wisconsin where he only got a plurality third party voters wouldn't likely have broken strongly enough against him for him to lose.
I mean if you take into account how stupid and incompetent he was in his last term and that he now he seems to be losing his faculties it was quite a landslide. Getting 10% should have been a miracle.
There's even rumors that votes in the swing states were fraudulent as well. A disproportionate number of "bullet ballots" in swing states alone may indicate foul going-ons. The only way to tell would be a recount, however.
Edit: Seems the info is dubious, at best. Partially straight up wrong. Oh well. A few hours of hope was nice.
This has been shut down pretty well at this point.
How? If there's new info I want to hear it but AFAIK it's been speculated and nobody has done any digging on it.
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According to snopes, the claims made by the Spoonamore guy are kinda iffy, I'm afraid. :(
https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/11/21/stephen-spoonamore-letter-harris/
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I think that's all BS. However, what is not BS is that ballots have just "vanished", due to being challenged by the Vigilante stuff. According to Greg Pallast, investigative journalist with the BBC, there have been over 800k provisional ballots that have not been counted because they have been thrown out. He even has the exact names of people, who's ballots have been thrown out.
If it wasn't so dire, I'd find it extremely fascinating...
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Trump runs on ego. Anything that quells the ego must be wrong.
This is the only effective way to slow him down imo. Make fun of him for having small crowds at his rallies then sue him for libel when he says his were bigger. It doesn't matter if it goes anywhere in court, you just need to force the conversation to keep his attention.
Unfortunately, he will soon have the power of the federal government at his fingertips. He will begin exacting retribution on anyone who is effective in slowing him down.
Yeah, he is afraid that it will be exposed that he rigged this election.
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Facts don’t care about his feelings.
The gaslighting of his campaign knows no bounds.
Wait, what? Trump didn't win the popular vote?
According to the first google search I did, Trump won by 2.5M votes. What's the logic behind the statement that he "failed to secure a majority of the popular vote"? Oh, are they're counting 3rd party votes? Who the fuck cares about that? That seems a lame nit-pick TBH.
It means less than 50% of votes were cast for him. In simpler terms, more people voted for someone else than him.
it doesn't say he didn't win the popular vote. it says he didn't secure majority. majority doesn't mean more than others; it means more than half.
it's not a nitpick; it's about him claiming mandate.
Serious question: Does it have any relevance whether or not someone secures majority of the public vote? Other than debunking Trump's landslide rethoric, I mean.
if you exclude where it matters, it doesn't matter; that's correct.
It is mostly relevant because of the long list of recent presidents who did. It also is clearly not a "mandate" and means at least half the US voters disagree with him. So other poloticians shouldn't just do what he says. That is mostly relevant inside the republican party, giving those that disagree more room to do so.
Nit-pick? That's what you are doing with the article
Well without qualifiers like "the majority of votes for the two major parties", the majority is literally all the votes.
Don't feel bad, education from red states is infamously bad. Might want to apply to some English courses at your local community college.
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