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Bluesky outage double feature, part 1 (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 4 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Bluesky managed to go offline practically entirely. I count on you folks to spork the hell out of this.

See also here.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In fairness they're still rolling out their federation.

Individuals can host their own servers with limited users (10 I think?). The Guardian seems to have launched one judging by their new account @theguadian.com launched today.

And they're using an open prptocol, with a promise to transfer it to an independent standards body in the near future. Also Jack Dorsey no longer has anything to do with it which is another good sign.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Can I have the documentation? I believe you I just haven't found it myself (I'm bad at looking things up)

I'd be interested in self hosting my own Bluesky server if this is the case, maybe I could bridge it to my Misskey Server

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At this point, anything that hurts Twitter is good. Bluesky may go down in two years, but if twitter dies in one, I'll be happy. People need to learn to jump platforms again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, competition, even if a little, is still good.

[–] [email protected] 130 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Sorry, Lemmy.world and Lemmy.ml were down for maintenance again. You were saying?

[–] [email protected] 79 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Well, this user has posted on feddit.uk with a sh.itjust.works account. I would have been able to see it, but you wouldn't have.

To be honest, lemmy.world AND lemmy.ml could go offline I would barely notice it.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think I would mainly notice because my whole feed would be wholesome, supportive, and funny.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have them both blocked, so yeah, they aren't that important at all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

i can understand blocking .ml, whats wrong with .world though?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

They have "power users" that mod multiples of the largest communities and will delete comments of they disagree with your opinion, citing "civility" or other nonsense, even when you're repeating back exactly what was said to you. So, yeah, abusive moderation.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Purely anecdotal but… the 3 stupidest people I’ve ever met online were all from .world - and there seems to be a propensity for deleting comments that go against their world view. Only knowingly interacted with one .ml poster and they were perfectly decent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Look at this social butterfly who’s interacted with 3 people

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

the 3 stupidest people I’ve ever met online were all from .world

That's a Hell of a claim!

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago

Can they do it again please?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 days ago (2 children)

And the fact that I had no idea kinda disproves your point. I am browsing Lemmy a lot.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The joke is that most of lemmycels are on lemmy.world and lemmy.ml. Not that these instances literally went down.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Because most of the communities are on those 2 instances. In terms of userbase world does have the most users, but they're the exception as other "big" instances are more evenly split.

So instead of a single instance going down we have 2 main instances that need to go down, and even if they go down we'd have lemmee, shitjustworks, lemmyca and blahaj (and I guess also lemmynsfw) communities feeding the feed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

(and db0 for the fun stuff, gosh)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Lemm.ee represent

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I could absolutely cruise games and memes on shit just works for a day if other instances are down

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

lemmycels

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (10 children)

No idea what a lemmycel is or what that would have to do with bluesky

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

And here I have a lemmy.world account because I'm not sure my own instance is that solid 🤕😥

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

Shit doesn't work

[–] parpol 8 points 4 days ago

Who?

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Based on https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/14/24296537/bluesky-acting-up-outage-down it was down for 15-30 minutes and for some it was just read-only.

Lemmy instances regularly go down for maintenance longer than this.

Twitter used to regularly "fail whale" and in the long run no one cares.

Yes, decentralizing is a good thing. Yes, it's fun to poke at BlueSky. But in the long run if you have a product that people want to use then they'll put up with a lot of crap/downtime.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (5 children)

The point is that bluesky has no interest in being actually decentralized, it's just a gimmick

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

bluesky is more federated than threads, but less federated than mastodon. As I understand it, you can more or less host your own bluesky "instance". Though it is difficult to do and some parts you have to build yourself, it is technically doable. This is not the case on threads, I believe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Except Threads is on ActivityPub so is an instance in the Fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I've recently read about that myself. But hosting anything Bluesky-related yourself is horrendously expensive because you need absolute monster servers with terabytes of disc space. Not to mention Bluesky's convoluted architecture.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have a question.

My partner has made an account on Bluesky because her favorite weather person got banned from Facebook but they made a Bluesky account.

I don't go on that kind of site, but I saw this post here. So my question is should she join some other instance of Bluesky that isn't Bsk.social so it won't crash?

Even if it is short crashes, I want her to have a good experience with decentralized networks and not go back to Xshitter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

So my question is should she join some other instance of Bluesky that isn’t Bsk.social so it won’t crash?

There aren't any, hence the meme.

I want her to have a good experience with decentralized networks

It is only notionally decentralised, she should just consider it as Xitter without the people actively trying to burn the world down with us still on it.

See also: Bluesky's fedi-washing and some context for that.

On the upside, it was fairly brief while they did an update, which is what all websites have to do from time to time, including a lot of Lemmy instances with the new version out. So it shouldn't spoil her user experience.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

The interesting thing is that Bluesky might become federated because of bridges to the fediverse. You would be able to federate with Bluesky with a fediverse server.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

also incredibly easy for the federal government to take them out

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

It's more like """federated""".

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