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[–] [email protected] 0 points 31 minutes ago

I find it hard to believe people making those memes are dumb enough to believe the underlying message. The pro-palestinian activist crowd was way too small to change anything in this massive loss, and I'd wager more of them percentage wise went and voted for Harris after all, than registered Dems did. Those people are politicaly concious enough to care about foreign politics, something vast majority of the voter base doesn't care in the slightest. I've seen you fuckers shadow boxing with some theoretical far left cabal, both apparently major in terms of being blamed for diverting voters and insignificant in terms of being worth listening to according to your propaganda, and I've barely ever seen anyone from the left saying that they wont vote for Harris. You've spammed those memes about not voting for Harris being a vote for Trump and pointed fingers at abstract pro-palestinian crowd, despite knowing fully well those people were going - and did, by the way - to vote for Harris. Dems lost not because of the politicaly engaged people on the left, you morons. Dems lost because they completely failed to engage people that weren't interested in politics. They completely capitulated the border issue to the GOP, allowing to full blown fascist narrative to emerge - something that wouldn't have happend it they pushed back instead. They paraded the animated corpse of Biden for far too long, going they could get away with it somehow. Completely sanitized Harris and muzzled Walz after their initial pro-workers and anti-corporate messages. They tried to shame people into voting instead of engaging them, shitted on the open primary, silenced arab communities, and then got confused when people not caring about politics too much failed to show up.

You're trying to show how much smarter you are than the anti-genociders with those memes, but you're completely missing the mark. This outcome is exactly what those people warned you about. People are mostly disengaged from the politics, and when they vote, they vote based on vibes. The year long support for genocide, broadcasted on every station and in many speeches, is a fucking vibe killer for many voters. The Dems had atrocious vibes all the way back from the october 7. They should have never give a green light for killing the civilians, on either side. They fumbled and refused to acknowledge it.

But yeah, Gaza is a relatively minor issue to the voters, seeing as people aren't interested in foreign politics at all. The reason why Dems lost was a sum of many other fuck ups as well. They barely even talked about Biden being pro union and walking the picket line. They barely pushed against the inflation lies. They laser focused being anti-immigration and calling Trump (deserved, sure) names. They're 100% guilty of letting Trump rule now, seeing how bad Trump campaign was. And seeing how your current propaganda looks like, it seems like you're not going to learn any lessons from this loss, assuming you guys ever get to vote again.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Wasn't that the point? They knew both sides would be pro Israel and sent a message that without more Palestinian support, the Dems wouldn't just get their vote.

It worked, the Dems have been nothing but shocked and aghast at the outcome. Now the pro- Palestine base are hoping the Dems turn against Israel for the 2026 election to win back their vote.

...the Dems won't, by the way. They might pay more lip service to it, but they'll never be anti-Israel.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

Dems aren’t shocked. Dem voters were repeating at every opportunity that things would be worse under Trump.

I think we’re just suspect of people who say they’re pro Palestine and then act to worsen their situation.

You showed the Dems tho!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You will see what the point is when Israel permanently occupies the West Bank and Gaza and starts the real genocide.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

Gaza has already been flattened and its people have been psychologically tortured into being unable to fight back.

This genocide is already well underway, not "about to start".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago

Democrats lost some voters because they couldn't stop sucking off fascists in israel and now they're smug because the other party who kicked their incompetent asses also suck off fascists in israel. Apparently we're supposed to laugh at anti-genocide protestors in this situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB5Lttr53Vk

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The problem with this country is that everyone else doesn't vote the way I want them to!!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago

no, the problem with this country is that some people hate the rest so much they're willing to die in order to make someone, anyone, suffer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody voted for trump because they support Palestine. You’re making shit up to get upset over that is totally divorced from reality.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That's right, they voted 3rd party or not at all.

wait a second..... do you think that's how Kamala lost?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Liberals trying to shame people because they didn’t want to support a literal genocide is just the most evil and stupid shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago

ha! jokes on you.

Tump is going to support the fuckin shit out of genocide.

which one?

All of them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

Well yes. Everyone knew trump was going to be worse for the Palestinians. Except for the people who wanted you to hate the democrats more and not vote and wanted you to ignore that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Which part is the humor part?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It would probably be funny if it wasn't true and a fucking tragedy.

I'm so goddamned irrationally mad at everything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago

Rationally. You're rationally mad at everything.

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