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[–] [email protected] 191 points 1 day ago (31 children)

Yup.

You can kiss Trump ever seeing consequences for his crimes goodbye.

Welcome to the new America.

Elections have consequences and Americans are simply too stupid to maintain a democracy. So we won't have one much longer.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago

A couple of people gave it a shot.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump didn't see any consequences in the old America either.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Not happening at all, but the only hope for accountability is a massive blue wave in 2026 followed by an immediate impeachment. Even then that's just early retirement.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We are well and truly fucked.

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[–] dudinax 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why? Prosecutors dogged Clinton for 8 years.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Clinton didn't have a rabid dog in the AG office

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

from the article:

In late October, Trump said in a radio interview that he would immediately fire Smith as special counsel if re-elected. “It’s so easy — I would fire him within two seconds,” Trump said, adding that he got “immunity at the Supreme Court.”

[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Leave it up to moderate liberals to roll over and die. Way to signal his kingship guys, fucking top notch pick, that Merrick Galand. To think this ineffective dipshit was considered for SCOTUS. Literally a direct historical correlation to the rise of Hitler through ineffective and complacent liberalism from the socialist party. I guess when you construct a DOJ that doesn't prosecute billionaires the whole thing short circuits when the tyrant is one.. who could have predicted that except every leftist and historian?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

Guess this election really was the nail in the coffin for me regarding how people were so blind and meek regarding Hitler's rise to power. Guess anyone that's not a leftist really does just let it happen, and the left is turned ineffective due to being labeled too extreme

History will think of today's USA the same way we thought about nazi Germany: wondering why nobody just put a bullet through Hitler's skull

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago

I'd quit too. America was too stupid to not vote trump in again, so why the hell martyr yourself for half a country of clowns when it gains you nothing?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (8 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I believe they were referring to the German Social Democratic Party, which was in power for a time during the Weimar Republic.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Republicans sure think so lmao

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 day ago (16 children)

But why?

Make the fascist fire you.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Actual reasons from an actual lawyer here https://youtu.be/wFEo9YJjGA0?si=-tQmsAGUSC4-H4jw

Tldr; Every other possibility ends in dismissal with prejudice. Dropping it leaves it potentially reviewable in 4 years. It's still highly unlikely anything happens.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

Came here to post this. Legal Eagle breaks it down proper here.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Thanks for this.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 day ago (2 children)
  • Because his job will now never be completed
  • Because this also slightly diminishes the possibility that he’ll be politically prosecuted by the incoming admin - though to be clear, I fully expect the Trump DoJ to make Smith’s life a living hell, and to throw him in jail if they can, and perhaps even execute him if they can figure out how to kangaroo court things to that degree. That is not a joke. This is an entirely serious comment.
[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why have a trial? SCOTUS already ruled President Trump is a king and can kill anyone so long as it's an official act.

We are entering the beginning stages of fascism people. Hold onto your butts.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I understand the sentiment, but it will never happen. Killing "Whites", especially whites named "Jack Smith" is bad for optics. Now Letitia James and Fani Willis is another story entirely. If I was either one of them I'd be getting my ass on a plane to someplace with a non-extradition treaty post haste.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Nazis make new in-groups and out-groups all the time. Loyalty way overshadows race in this case.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago

Because the cause for his appointment no longer exists. The OLC memo regarding the prosecution of sitting Presidents means that Smith's appointment is frustrated at its most basic level of inception.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago

The Fascists will fire people with firing squads, there's no shame in an act of self preservation when resigning from a job you can't do might keep you alive.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The Darkest Brandon move would be to remove the DOJ policy on not investigating sitting Presidents. Many of these cases were clearly not under Presidential Immunity, and some weren't even done while Trump was President. That should have consequences regardless of getting the job back or not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

That doesn't matter if the DOJ is just a rubber-stamp puppet for the president.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Darkest Brandon should have Trump [redacted]

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

He's an obvious national security threat. Biden could claim immunity since it would be an official act to protect the country.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I still don't understand how this is an official DOJ policy. I always see it referenced as a DOJ memo from the 70s. Who gives a shit about memos? This is supposed to be a country of laws, not 50 year old memos.

But yeah, would love Garland to issue a new memo overturning that policy. Let Trump's first official act be to overturn an existing policy to prevent him from being investigated. Not saying he would even hesitate to do it, just saying I'd like to make it an explicit step he has to take.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Legal memoranda are not just an interoffice note. They are policy interpretations and internally-governing documents. The memorandum is from the Office of Legal Counsel which is an independent subdepartment — neither Garland or the President himself can overturn the policy.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

The darkest Brandon would be [redacted]

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 day ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago

There are rules for us, not them.

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