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this post was submitted on 11 Nov 2024
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Screw this meme format that perpetuates the normalization and acceptance of christianity. Fixed it.
Would probably flow more naturally and avoid unwanted conversation if you used "on earth" or something else universally experienced instead of "in athieism" which leads to the same problem you were complaining about but from a different group.
I would like to normalize non-belief though.
Sorry if I'm being unintentionally obtuse, this is a genuine question, what's not normalized about it? I can't remember the last time I had a conversation about my faith or lack thereof. Could just be my location and circles I hang out with, but I don't know many people, especially my age or younger, who really care one way or another.
There's so much more to it, but the short version is that a huge portion of this country doesn't consider atheists trustworthy or even properly "American". God is on our money, the bible is used for official government ceremony, most of our public holidays are Christian, the word holiday and tons of others are explicitly rooted in religious culture. In-n-Out has a little bible passage on their cups.
Being openly atheist is a radical position in this country, one that will limit you professionally and socially.
For anyone considering complaining about the complaining, now is absolutely the time to bitch and moan about the DNC and all of their failures. It’s 4 years until the next presidential election (hopefully) so if ever there were a time to complain, and execute the ultrawealthy, it is now.
Pelosi needs to go.
and execute the ultrawealthy,
Post haste.
Now is the time to see who might run for house/senate seats and encourage those you like, insult those you don't, and volunteer. See if we can replace some of the spineless DNC members.
Something that really impressed me with Bernie was that in 2015 he gave a speech at Liberty University.
Liberty is the among the most conservative of conservative "Christian" colleges. As surprised as I was that they allowed him to speak, I was more surprised that Bernie went. I was raised in Christian fundamentalism. I know how hard it is to break down the barriers between you and people who belive you're going to hell for A.) Being Jewish, and B.) supporting 'baby murderin'.
That's a wide gap but he tried to bridge it anyway and find common ground. I thought he did a damn good job. He showed more backbone than any other major player in the democratic party when everyone else thought it was a waste of time to talk to anyone who isn't a "swing state" voter.
It was one of the reasons I voted for him twice. It was clear that Bernie was/is interested in the welfare of all Americans and that he wanted to be president for all Americans. Even ones he might have significant ideological differences with. The Democrats can't whine about their dwindling support when they're too chicken shit to go talk to people in Red states. Trump is and will contibue to be a collosal failure as president, but he proved one thing for certain. The days of the "safe" candidate being a winning bet are gone.
2008 DNC was oblivious to Obama until the caucuses started, cuz polling (except for one agency) was consistently missing his popularity with first-timers, so they didn’t get much of a chance to stop him.
This was also before Citizens United, so there’s that too…
Why don't the primaries in 2016 and 2020 count? Just curious, asking in good faith.
In 2016, Clinton paid off the DNC's debts and became it's only financial lifeline, for which DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz abdicated control of party to Clinton's team long before she secured the nomination,, the AP controversially called the primary for Hillary just before California voted, giving voters the impression the primary was over before voting finished, and the DNC later argued in court that they had no obligation give Bernie a fair, democratic primary.
In 2020, Obama worked behind the scenes to get the other moderates to drop out and back Biden, and Representatives Ford and Smith admitted the party did coalesce around Biden in 2020 to block Bernie.
TL:DR: 2016 was meant to be a Clinton coronation with no real challengers, and they had to kneecap Bernie when he got in the way. 2020 was an open, fair election between everyone that wasn't named Sanders, and they had to kneecap Bernie when he got in the way.
You screwed up your closing parentheses on the first link. Just a heads up.
Thanks for the heads up, it's fixed.
For one they did not, at all, care for the results of the votes. Like in 2016 they just used Superdelegates to invalidate all the races Clinton had lost.
For one they did not, at all, care for the results of the votes. Like in 2016 they just used Superdelegates to invalidate all the races Clinton had lost.
They did no such thing. Fuck's sake. We lost by some 10% points, against Hillary fucking Clinton. This idea that the better candidate will automatically be the more popular one is some utter fucking delusion I keep seeing from the left.
I voted for Bernie twice. I would vote for him again in a heartbeat, age and all. That's not the same as peddling "The DNC STOLE the primary from us!"
At the very, very least, they are guilty of lopsided financial support and advertising dollars behind each candidate. The rest is largely supposition, though certainly COULD be true. Sometimes it's easier to accept that than that the other voters are dumb. I have no idea which is actually true
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Using the superdelegates to call the race for Hillary the night before the California primary, He's in the superdelegates in West Virginia and other states. Doing everything they could to stop Bernie. Watch this clip: https://youtu.be/QGuVDz_88po
Doing everything they could to stop Bernie.
Not to mention the fact that we know the DNC was having their media outlets run interference on the Sanders campaign, painting him as a crazy left socialist to scare off the moderates, when in reality the majority of Americans approve of his campaign's policies even more than the Dems' or Repubs'.
NPR would refuse to say his name, it was always "Hilary Clinton, and the Vermont senator". Cokie Roberts was a Wellesley alumn.
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Anyone giving odds on whether or not they'll hold a fair primary in 2028?
They'll just force us all to support Gavin Newsom. It's his turn.
Who is Bernie adjacent? Anyone?
He's wildly unpopular outside of his circle of influence. I think he even lost support in CA this year. That doesn't mean they won't try to force him anyway.
If anything that kinda lends itself to be more likely, as is tradition.
He didn't spend all that time vetoing progressive policies and harassing the homeless to sit on the sidelines while someone else runs against Trump's third term.
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Tom Walz 2028
I really like him but I don't know if he it in him to be the top of the ticket. Is debate performance was middling at best.
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Pretty sure only like 16 Million people voted in the 2024 Primary
Only like 36 Million in 2020
Instead of complaining about how unfair it is why dont people actually try organizing for a candidate and voting in primaries?
Or better yet, just give dems + indie a supermajority and they'll reform voting.
The Democrats can reform their primary process any way they want any time they want. They are a private organization.
And they are. In Kansas and Hawaii since 2020 they've used RCV for DNC Primaries. Maine, a blue state, also practices RCV for the general election.
On the other hand, many Republicans have directly opposed RCV.
And the majority of these reforms are brought about by Petition, including the ballot measures.
They are, but not nearly enough. The entire primary system is setup to be easily manipulated by the party leadership and their puppets on cable news.
Also, this isn't exactly a fair statement since the primary was declared over before the majority of states even got to participate. Yes there is low turnout sometimes in states that get to participate, but there are many of us who would like to and can't, hence feeling like it isn't exactly a fair or representative process
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