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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

Well duh. That's the whole point of carbon credits at this point.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Of COURSE it is.

BTW. Who gets this carbon offset money anyway, and what do they do with it?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

If they actually worked, it would be payment to somebody who has taken an action to prevent emissions they otherwise would not have prevented. In practice, it's 90% middlemen who claim to have paid somebody to take such an action, but no such action actually occurred, or a completely ineffective action occurred.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Oh no, maybe the EU had a point making this kind of bullshit illegal?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

No shit. Companies can simply say they are offseting opposed to actually doing anything. It like asking a Capitan Planet villain to be honest.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

It “may” be? What kind of cockamamie reporting is this

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

That’s not possible 😅🙈

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

To the surprise of absolutely nobody.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

It's even worse. The places that sell carbon offsets are often poorer parts of the world. The selling is essentially a privatization of carbon sinks. As is tradition, these privatizations are very under-priced. Worse still, as they're selling carbon sinks, they will not have those carbon sinks for themselves in the future if they choose to "develop" and emit more GHGs... they'll have to buy carbon credits from some other fools and the prices are not likely to be lower.

It's all very silly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

If I remember correctly, this was a plot point in Kim Stanley Robinson's The Ministry for the Future. There are cheaper offsets that are there for the taking, but every company must meet a certain quota, so if you buy the cheap ones, great, but if you hold out and are left with expensive ones that you can't afford, you are fined, and the money is put into the offsets anyway.

I could be totally misremembering it. Honestly, I didn't enjoy the book that much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

You mean the thing that we keep getting reminded every single year is a scam, was always a scam, and never had any intentions other than to delay anyone pushing actual regulations with a pinky promise to do better "eventually".....

That maybe the companies are.... Lying to us?

Do you really think a company, the pinnacle of honest capitalism, would ever lie for short term profits?

Perish the thought!