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Trump was already facing multiple criminal and civil suits in 2016. They had 8+ years to hold him accountable for even a single thing, and didn't.
Yeah this is an important point. If the system lets guys like Trump get away with obvious crimes for 8 years, and that's when it's working as intended, then the system needs to be dismantled. Maybe the only way to drain the swamp is to let it turn into a sinkhole that drags everything down with it. Not that we have much choice in the matter at this point.
The thing is that even though Trump is incredibly stupid and incompetent, the people influencing him aren't. It will never completely fail, regardless of how bad it gets for the average person. They'll ensure that it meets their needs until we're right back to living in a medieval feudal system. Hell, we're almost there already, except there's still some pretty comfortable people in the middle. But that class is rapidly shrinking, and the feudal lords are tightening their grip.
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I could go for kicking Merrick Garland in the dick. Might make me feel just a little better.
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“No one in their right mind is backing 2025…”
Then why did YOU?!
"It's just a joke"
I'd like to start a new response of "I don't care if you're joking, you're still an asshole".
Ahh yes the joke that they posted a several hundred page memo about and had been celebrating up until the point they realized it had gotten spread and they were getting criticized for it.
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"He's probably just joking" is something I heard so much over the past few years about things the right has been spewing. THEY ARE NOT JOKING, THEY ARE NEVER JOKING! I don't know how this is a hard thing to understand.
Also, if they are lying about these things, why did they vote for a liar? A lot of people who called agenda 2025 fake or lies still voted for the party representing it.
Trump says 'I don't kid' after aides argue he was joking about slowing coronavirus testing.
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Also, why the fuck is it cool for a politician to joke about doing shit? Literally any joke is not cool.
Fuck, my neighbor says the same every time Trump says something awful. "Trump just talks a lot of shit, he's just joking."
Fuck you neighbor, you approved leadership from the guy who encouraged putting kids in cages.
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I used to have a boss who like to joke about firing people on his team. He was a nice guy and there was no ill intention behind the jokes, but we eventually had to sit him down and tell him that he couldn't joke about that stuff because it causes a great deal of stress to people given his position.
Another example is bomb jokes in airports. Aside from just being in poor taste, that's something that will get you arrested and probably put on a no-fly list for life because it's an extremely serious matter with no exceptions.
So, even if Trump and his people are just joking about these horrible things, it's completely unacceptable when it's entirely believable they would do this stuff and would be in a position to make it happen.
TLDR: There are just some things you don't fucking joke about.
I joke about firing people sometimes, but I am not a manager and never want to be managing anyone. I only say it to people who know that I have no power over them which is the only time this joke is OK.
I do IT at a semiconductor foundry, and only us and managers walk around with laptops. I don't even have to say anything, and people get in panic mode and scramble to look like they are working until I say don't worry, I'm just IT. I won't say a word.
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"I don't like it when you show me what I'm supporting"
Hold MAGA accountable. Every. Single. Day.
I agree, but also leave them a path to change their mind. If they admit fault, stop pressuring them. If you continue to hound them after they admit the mistake, it's likely only going to make them double down. Revenge, or whatever, doesn't help anything. We want them to recognize it was a bad decision and change their behavior in the future.
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They've lied so much and gaslit so much that people don't know what to believe anymore.
And with all the AI and Russian troll farm bullshit being posted on social media, it's just poisoning the truth. It's time to ditch Twitter, Facebook and company.
I keep telling my folks that and that they'll end up being influenced and manipulated but they refuse because of how convenient it is. And I almost have to keep it because that's the only way they communicate right now.
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Conservatives: I like [insert obnoxious conservative figurehead] because they tell it like it is, they mean what they say
Also conservatives, sometimes in the same breath: Fake! [obnoxious conservative figurehead] didn't mean that! Taken out of context! 'Tis but a jape!
Jesus fuck the reality distortion field is strong, it's like doublethink but without being a clever social trick to survive, it's just they're that stupid.
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Stupid fascist fucks.
Ich habe es nicht gewust
Oh this.... So much of this.
This is like the UK voting for brexit only to start searching "what will brexit do for me" the day AFTER the vote...
It sucks sonbad that dictatorships don't work, because democracy with stupid people doesn't work either and most people are just. So. Stupid...
For that vote, we actually had a whole-ass government produced booklet through the door.
It supported Remain and explained all the shit that would happen if Leave went through.
The plebs saw some lies about the NHS slapped on the side of a bus, suspended all intelligence, and voted Leave. In my eyes the majority was not strong enough to consider changing foundation policy, but here we are.
All the turmoil promised came to fruition.
Let me be a grammar Nazi. It's "gewusst". But spot on, yes.
For non-german speakers: "I didn't knew of this". In a reference to Nazi germany when Hitler and the NSDAP publicised a lot of their plans inb4. Just like HF with P2025.
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bullies always start out "joking"
Worried about making white people uncomfortable is how we got here in this first place.
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I listened to many interviews with people convinced that Trump wouldn't do the things he said he would do. They definitely won't acknowledge the things he said he won't do.
To be fair, I'm hoping Trump won't do a lot of the things that he said he'd do. I have some hope of that--not because his intentions are good, but on the chance he gets distracted with something less harmful that strokes his ego.
Trump is not the one to worry about now. His entire cabinet and the cavities within every institution who wrote and sponsored and want project 2025 are the ones to worry about. They will be carrying out their edict that they've successfully worked on for at least a decade now if not more. They have everything they could ever want to do it. And Trump will do random crazy things because he can now and that's who he is but he doesn't care about 2025, he just cares about celebrity, money and power. And every crazy thing he makes headlines for will be when the power grabs really happen and when the damage is done.
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This is why America deserves everything it voted for this time around.
A lot of people are going to suffer who didn't vote for him. This is as callous as the fascists.
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The people who voted for evil do.
The people who failed to vote against evil do, but less.
The people who voted against evil? No fuckin chance.
"America" is too wide a brush, but I get talking that way.
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The time for being reasonable and trying to convince willfully ignorant fucks is long past. You tell them they are a fucking fool. You block them on all communication channels. You never talk to them again. Trying to reason with an idiot is a waste of time. If anything you feed their thought process they are right by debating. They should all be ignored. They should all be cut off from their loved ones and friends.
Shut them down, but leave them a route out.
It's a cult, one of the goals is to trap people within them. The worst thing we can do is shove people back into that box, once they try and escape. It might be satisfying, but it's also extremely counterproductive.
If America wants to actually win, you either need to outlive, or deconvert the members. The first will take generations, I presume you don't want to have to wait that long?
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The Narcissist's Prayer
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
Like the citizens of Weimar (near concentration camp Buchenwald) said in april 1945: wir haben es nicht gewusst
They sure seem to like the Arbeit macht frei signs too, rolling back child labor laws for more “freedom”
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The problem is that he was likely joking. It’s a shitty joke on our end but Walsh is deliberately using people’s panic to make fun of the media and the left in general.
The point of the joke was to trigger alarms and make people write dumb articles about it. Then he can point and laugh about how his joke triggered you and also turn accusations about Project 2025 into a hyperbole that the left uses. From then on the phrase will be easily ignored by moderates as an overreaction from the left. Because in this case it is an overreaction, he’s clearly trying to scare people.
Just keep in mind that this is a common tactic they employ to take the sting out of certain terms and to keep their base unaware of the BS. It’s why the left can’t rally around phrases like the right can.
I don’t disagree with your analysis of what he’s doing, but I don’t think he’s joking in the sense that he doesn’t mean it. He’s “joking” in the “haha just kidding… unless? 👀” sense.
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