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Former CIA Director Leon Panetta warned that Trump’s return to the White House could embolden Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, giving him a "blank check" in the Middle East and increasing the risk of war with Iran.

Panetta expressed concern that Trump would support Netanyahu's aggressive stance against Iran without restraint, potentially worsening regional instability.

Panetta also predicted Trump might allow Russia to retain parts of Ukraine if he returns to office, though he doubted Trump’s negotiation skills.

He criticized Trump’s approach to foreign policy, suggesting Trump would be inclined to "capitulate" to authoritarian leaders, which may not sit well with some Republicans.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Waiiiiit, are you saying that not voting Kamala didn't magically stop the genocide in Gaza?????

That it only accelerates it, like I and other people have been saying for months????

WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING?!

[–] [email protected] -3 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)

Are you saying Kamala and Biden had the power to stop the genocide in Gaza but chose not to as a bargaining chip with Muslims?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 35 minutes ago

Good job putting words in my mouth, .ml

I said Trump would make the genocide worse. Which he will.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well now that the election is lost, the Democrats could make true on their claim they would seriously end this, but had to wait until after the election...

I doubt they will, because every of their action has shown to be equally strong genocide supporters. But we should see the next days, as Israel still doesnt let anywhere close to 350 Trucks into Gaza, leave alone any into the north of Gaza. The ultimatum is running out.

Also as weapons deliverys to Israel have been and are illegal anyways under US law, now would be a great chance to get every Republican and Democrat who voted for them or approved them as part of the administration into jail and in front of a court.

Oh wait, they wont because breaking the law, which unsurprisingly helped the convicted felon win, was worth it, so genocide could be further supportet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It's not like the Republican house thwarted all of Biden's efforts either

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

That is true. Which is why it doesn't matter if the bombs given to Israel are red or blue.

However now Democrats lost over genocide. Now AIPAC cannot play both parties anymore by making blind support for Israel the deciding factor. The Democrats lost because of Israel. Now they need to purge the Zionists and rebrand as the non genocide party, if they want to win moving on. This locks AIPAC in as being only in support of the Republicans, which limits their political influence.

If it wasn't for Harris/Biden loss, there was no hope for Palestinians, or any other people in West Asia in regards to US policy. Now there is a chance that one side of US policy will change.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

That should put paid to the myth that Trump is 'the antidote to all the wars'.

I always thought that the argument 'no wars were started during his presidency' was bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 minutes ago

He spent all 4 years totaling around 3 trillion in Afghanistan, to accomplish nothing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Trump started plenty of wars https://youtu.be/QQYFVEka3fA

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

crazy to think that trump might do exactly what he said he was going to do. how could we, the voters, have predicted this?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago

Fucking DUH, god damn.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Don't worry there were no wars under Trump last time and there won't be this time it's that simple 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I genuinely don't know whether you're being sarcastic or not.

Yes, despite the smiley-spam.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

Trump’s voters are so unhinged that it has become almost impossible to distinguish sarcasm from their real thoughts. Poe’s law n shit

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

i take comfort in knowing that most of the time it’s going to be sarcasm, since (in my experience) there are very few trump supporters on lemmy. and the few trump supporters that i’ve seen don’t tend to last.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Whew! Good thing the moral purity brigade shunned Kamala Harris.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 37 minutes ago

The smugness of the average democrat at seeing Palestine being flattened by Democrat-funded bombs is a true sight to behold. Your inhumanity will be remembered.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean, Trump will definitly ensure that the suffering of Palestenian people ends quickly

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Judging by the lack of consequences for the previously observed war crimes, my bet is they'll prolong the suffering to sate their revenge lust. See if anyone bothers to step in when they erect full blown torture camps.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't you know trump will stop the genocide....by writing a check so large that Israel completely removes Palestinians from the map... can't have a genocide of Palestinians if there are no more Palestinians.

Check mate libruls

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

on the bright side we won't hear anything about it anymore /s

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I heard the "but there won't be any of these wars once Trump is back" argument several times.

I would usually revel in watching the walls come down around someone's stupid opinions, but in this case, we as a country have to suffer for it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago

Guess were all in on genocides rather than pretending were not enabling it and hoping it sorts itself out, sorry.

I can't convince ~74,000,000 morons to change their mind. ¯\(ツ)

[–] [email protected] 179 points 16 hours ago (47 children)

Congratulations, idealists. You definitely stopped the genocide by refusing to vote for Harris and urging others to do likewise. A+ job.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Oh he'll help end the genocide alright. You can't genocide a people that's already wiped off the planet.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 15 hours ago (8 children)

ukraine is gonna get 'helped' similarly. putin will have a free pass once the u.s. aid stops. i don't think the other nato countries or the e.u. can cover that, especially long-term.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 minutes ago

Ukraine is a subsidy given to lockhead martin. Putin is an US asset. They will not stop.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

Trump voters: "Trump is the most peaceful president ever. We need to bring the defence spending to Ukraine home. America first".

Trump is elected and inevitably drags the US into yet another war in in the Middle East

Trump voters: Pikachu face

Nah. Just kidding about that last part. It was all just empty rhetoric to justify the grift and looting all the way down as the country burns to the ground in the background.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

I would hedge my bets for now. Alternative scenario: The Saudis throw another party for Trump, make some business deals in exchange for reigning in Israel. The House of Al Saud of course doesn't care about Palestinians but their people do and a party and some business is a low price to pay to be celebrated by your subjects.

When it comes to Russia, Trump may realise that Putin way overplayed his hand, but that's balanced by animosity towards Zelensky. OTOH, I mean, business deals. Don't underestimate Ukraine when it comes to being smooth operators. They can sell NASA/SpaceX rocket engines made from Russian war reparations titanium.

Thing is: Trump is highly neurotic and thus, while not necessarily predictable, highly manipulatable if you know what you're doing. Only have to blow the right smoke up his ass.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

Just have to be the last one to blow any smoke up there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I would hedge my bets for now. Alternative scenario: The Saudis throw another party for Trump, make some business deals in exchange for reigning in Israel. The House of Al Saud of course doesn't care about Palestinians but their people do and a party and some business is a low price to pay to be celebrated by your subjects.

Blech.. this honestly seems more likely to me now, plus it can be used as propaganda to "prove" that he did something about genocide, to keep people voting red...

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