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actually awesome and fast search engine (depending on which instance you use) with no trashy AI and ADs results also great for privacy, if you don't know which instance to use go to https://searx.space/ and choose an instance closest to you

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

it's like using google from 2000's; thanks for sharing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Aren't all search queries available to whoever hosts an instance? In my eyes this is much worse to privacy and a much bigger risk unless you really know who is behind your chosen instance. I would trust some a company a bit more with safeguarding this information so it does not leak to some random guy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Companies are definitely selling your data. Use a VPN.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

As someone who hosts an instance, news to me lol

Edit: Developer says this can't be done currently? Reddit comment

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

It doesn't bother me one bit of you know my search history. You'll learn I search a word to see if I know your to spell it properly and that I DIY a lot of stuff lol

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago

Man, i wish i had the same experiencr

The couple of times I tried it out, the search results where barely accurate

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Been rocking self-hosted Searxng for the last 3 weeks now as my default search engine; it's as good or better than DDG and certainly better than Google. Results I need are usually within the first three items, no extraneous shit.

I thought I'd just try it out, but it's staying. The ability to tune the background engines is awesome. My search history is private (though I wasn't that worried about DDG, there was no way in fuck I was using Kagi) since it's running it's searches via a VPN and returning me results locally.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Keep in mind that to protect your privacy you should also share your instance with others. All the searches are still linked to an IP which can be abused as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, that's the purpose of the VPN. It's out there mixed in with everyone else that's using that exit node.

Honestly, it's not too much of a concern to me, I'm not doing anything illegal or naughty, it's just making sure I'm not part of the dataset.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Yep, a VPN is a good solution.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

How does it work self hosting? Is it querying other search engines or just maintaining a database on your server?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

It's a meta search engine: it aggregates results from multiple sources for your search query. So yes, it queries other search engines.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

Its all calls to other engines, that you can choose and tune. So its making those calls and filtering out shit like AI results, and then ranking it to return back to you. Seems to do a good job.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

I really wish there was a privacy oriented search engine with decent search results ...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Can someone explain the meaning of the name and the people having this project please?

You're trusting how information is filtered and funneled to you with a search tool, but a change to take lightly. Google sucks, but they have a lot to lose, a lot of eyes on them and I know generally their base motivations.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Fortunately, you can read through the source code of SearxNG and even modify it - provided that you also publish the modified version to your users if you host it publicly.

You can run your own instance, public or private. Or you can use a public instance.

Internally, it uses other search engines, rather than crawling the entire web and indexing everything.

[–] Shareni 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's ok at best, when it works. When it runs out of API hits for the day at noon, you need to use something like https://searx.neocities.org/ and retype your search multiple times until you manage to hit an instance that can actually perform a search.

Also, no suggestions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Self host it, it's nothing to set up.

[–] Shareni 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't that defeat the only benefit - anonymity?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Not if it runs the queries it sends out via a VPN where it mingles with thousands of other requests. An API call doesn't have the disadvantages of browser fingerprinting, cookies, etc that are used to build a background of a user browsing to your search engine and track their searches. Also, there is no feedback to the search engine about which result you choose to use. If you allow outside users, it would further muddy the waters.

Ideally, you'd have it run random searches when not being used to further obfuscate the source.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Does it have a widget? I want to integrate it in my workflow on my phone

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

No widget. You can make it into a web app though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

The best thing is to self host it, to have better uptimes and custom default settings

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

Did anyone else not know Lycos was still around? Lycos is still around. Seems not that bad. No AI stuff.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

4get.ca has been great for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

I have it running on my server, and honestly... I almost love it more than kagi. Still evaluating both, to make a decision by the end of the year.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Kagi works great for me. 100% worth it, best engine I've tried.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

5 dollars for 300 searches per month? Dafuk? And to top it up, need an actual account with email. Gets acquired in a couple of years, and all the data they gather on you gets sold. You'd be better off staying with Google.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

From what i understand, you need an account to use that, dosn't seem very private.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Dig out old PC from somewhere, install some Linux distribution, Tailscale and Docker/Podman, and install SearX that way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What if you want to use the computer for something other than Google searching?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

Install the other stuff on it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

Using it on my own server since... Ages ☺️ Can only recommend it. Even though google's results are often... Weird up to completely unhelpful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I use ononoki for almost a half year without effort.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I checked it out, but most of the public instances I looked at use google + bing. I think I only came across one that used Mojeek, but they deranked it so google results were still at the top.

Yeah you can customize them -- if you never clear your cookies.

Pretty much need to self-host it to customize it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

if you never clear your cookies.

They allow you to use a link instead for saving settings, which can also be used to set as your default search engine

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'd use it if its public instances didn't get rate-limited so often

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