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There is enough confusion between horizontal resolutions (2K, 4K etc.) and vertical ones (1080p, 2160p etc.). This is not helping; why even print a promotional sticker with a number of pixels smaller than what it should be?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Kerning is important.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Don’t the outward pointing arrows indicate it’s a widescreen format? That would be my interpretation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This is how one outs themselves as a teenager these days huh?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

I don’t think the point is the number. The point is that the arrows indicate the width, which is 1920 pixels. But the numbers indicate the height (1080 pixels)

So the sticker is mildly infuriating by having the arrows not correspond to the number, which is the topic of this community.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

By having seen a low-end 2017 laptop?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I had an Acer of the same series with that sticker. When that notebook was produced, 2k or 4k was not a thing. We were in the era of transitioning from what we called "HD-Ready" or 720p to "FullHD" or 1080p. These numbers refer to the rows, so the horizontal resolution. At least for me that number is pretty clear I immediately know what it means. I bought that notebook in late 2018 I highly doubt this sticker exists anymore.

The era I'm talking about is like 5-8 years ago btw

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The terms "2K" and "4K" were totally commonplace since about 2010, although not as prevalent as 1080p. I hate how the video industry switched to marketing horizontal resolution (and rounding it up) just to make the number look big.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

In what way exactly? I am not following some of these comments. The thing that irks me is that the companies make these wide screens, and then hide the resolution to try and fool me into thinking it's a 4K monitor. I actually really want a 4K monitor, and every time, it seems to be someone trying to fool me again. (I know they are available, but I am hoping they come down a bit in price)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

These numbers refer to the rows, so the horizontal resolution.

Yes, that is the number of rows. But that makes it the vertical resolution. There's 1080 pixels from top to bottom. If the arrows/triangles are indicating the direction of measurement, they are wrong.

I suspect that it's an attempt at indicating a wide screen. 16:9, 16:10 etc was fairly new at the time, many buyers would be expecting their usual 4:3 screen ratio.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

You're right, I mixed it up, it's the number of cols. So 1920 rows x 1080 columns. So yeah the sticker is right but OP is wrong.

Idk, when I bought that notebook in 2018, 4:3 was not really common anymore. But it might be a regional thing as someone else suggested. That marketing is often confusing is uncontroversial. However I don't really agree with this being "mildy infuriating".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

So 1920 rows x 1080 columns.

No, it's definitely 1920 columns and 1080 rows.

So yeah the sticker is right but OP is wrong.

I don't know what the sticker is trying to say. I can read it in two ways, and one of them is kind of correct while the other is definitely wrong. And that is unnecessarily confusing, and therefore mildly infuriating.

I don't know what you think OP is wrong about.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

So 1920 rows x 1080 columns.

Unless I have a massive brain fart right now, no, that's the exact opposite. The screen is wider than it is tall (unless you rotate by 90°) - hence the term widescreen. There are 1920 columns (width) and 1080 rows (height). This is why the sticker is confusing: it indicates that 1080 pixels is the width.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

1080 rows of 1920 pixels each
1920 columns of 1080 pixels each

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

I agree and do not further engage in this discussion to not induce any more confusion ;)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just click the right arrow to scale it up?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Don't try to teach me how to use technology, I was building stone axes and made fire before you were born!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This confusion is likely local and exists inside your head only. 1080p has been known as full hd since the early days of dvd.

2k and 4k does not refer to horizontal resolution but the number of pixels. 1080p is 2k

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

But 2K and 4K do refer to the horizontal resolution. There’s more than one resolution that’s referred to as 2K, for example 2048 x 1080 DCI 2K, but also 1920 x 1080 full HD, since it’s also almost 2000 pixels wide. The total number of pixels is in the millions, not thousands.

For 4K some common resolutions are 4096 x 2160 DCI 4K and 3840 x 2160 UHD, which both have a horizontal resolution of about 4000 pixels.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Yeah - like stated in the wiki article i linked. im not sure how I interpreted OP when reading the post again today. I didn't notice the arrows part, and thats in the title.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I know the difference but there are lots of people who aren't really savvy with video technology. I wouldn't blame them for thinking that [🢐 1080 🢒] is just barely better than 1024x768.

2k and 4k does not refer to horizontal resolution but the number of pixels

Nope. 1080x1920 is 2 073 600 pixels, which would be 2M. "2K" is 1920 rounded up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Nah

They won’t know about 1024x768, but if they did they would understand that 1080 is barely better.

Going from 1024 to 1920 horizontal also takes the aspect ratio from 3:4 to 16:9. so pixel density is barely better.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

https://www.xkcd.com/1889/

If 2K referred to the number of pixels, it would look like this: Bliss 50×40=2000 This post 62×33=2046

FullHD is actually a little over 2M pixels.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

dood. i never thought about that. maybe i should stop saying 4k

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Greedy marketers just wanted to show a higher number... That's why they switched from height to width, too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Isn't 4k x4 the amount of fullHD pixels? Its like 4 fullHD screens stacked together, that's how it was marketed and hence the name.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, 1080p is 2K because its width is 1920 (close to 2000), 2160p is 4K (3840 px wide), 4320p is 8K (7680 px wide). It's not 1K, 4K and 16K.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

2K is 2560x1440p though, not 1080, make a quick google search and you'll see it. It's roughly double the amount of pixels of fullHD.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)