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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

MAGA Republicans are now on the same side as North Korea.

Nice work Republicans. This is not at all fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Weren’t they already? I seem to remember Trump and “Rocket Man” talks and such the last time he was in office and MAGA was down for it.

Doesn’t make it less fucked up, just that there’s a lot of that to follow.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Russia gets a bunch of troops that have no combat experience vs. a bunch of hardened Ukrainian combat veterans and it's virtually guaranteed that a good portion will try to defect.

What does North Korea get out of this? Reducing surplus population?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

What does North Korea get out of this?

goodwill from an arms exporter. money, food, other aid. actual military experience for their armed forces.

[–] CameronDev 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bunch of malnourished troops as well. They aren't just genetically short.

Any survivors will bring back experience, so there is that. And they will learn modern warfare stuff, like drone/antidrone tactics.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think any survivors will be applying for Ukrainian citizenship.

[–] CameronDev 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The smart ones for sure, but a lifetime of propaganda is a hell of a drug :/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

More than that, they supposedly punish multiple generations of the family in labor camps. You can Google something like North Korea 3 generations to see the details.

[–] CameronDev 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, rough situation. Ideally, Ukraine needs a way to signal to them, "If you surrender, we'll say you were captured/killed so your family is safe".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These aren't cadets. They're probably extremely loyal and well trained. What they get is real modern warfare experience they will bring back home. Maybe, as a remote possibility, they'll get nuclear info to improve on their own projects.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No amount of training will make you ready for actual combat. There's a hell of a lot of difference when actual bullets are whizzing by you than when someone's yelling at you to pretend they are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Fair enough. We'll have to see how it plays out. I have a feeling they'll be more reliable and motivated than most of their Russian counterparts. Who knows, they might not even see the front line, it's all just a mystery.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Right... that's why they are putting them in actual combat. Whoever survives will be elite NK soldiers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Whoever survives

That part is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Rumor is that North Korea get what a volunteer would get.
I believe Russia recently raised that to the equivalent of $30k.
If true that is $300 million for Kim Jong Un. On top of all the crap equipment Russia has bought.
Not a lot for a normal country, but for a dictator who pocket most of it, it's probably pretty nice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Probably some big trade deals which they negotiated over a year.

NK needs a lot of external resources to survive, so I wouldn't be surprised if they essentially traded soldiers for exactly that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Once again the US is still at war with North Korea, that means all North Korean troops in the Ukraine are valid targets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Wow Putin bein thirsty af

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago

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