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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

utterly revolting!!

Where did these leak so i know to stay away from those parts of the internet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Not sure but there has been a torrent of leaks as of late.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Oh no! It says there might be early spoilers! Yikes!

Nothing for me to do but go download the ROM and play it early, then. I have no choice.

[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good, it serves them right for the way they treat their customers. I hope every one of their games gets leaked early.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They typically do in my experience

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yup, i was active in the n64 days and we enjoyed early roms :)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's awesome, I didn't know it went that far back

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago

🏴‍☠️

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Unpopular opinion: These leaks are probably the reason for Nintendo being so ruthless on emulators.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's difficult to know how much of a difference it makes, but I also think it's at least a reason. Given Nintendo is also going after sites like Vimm's Lair, which does not host recent consoles ROMs, it's not the only reason.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Certainly not. But with Vimm's lair you could argue that it's definetly illegal, while emulation is generally considered legal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

There's tons of illegal things that people do every single day that the law turns a blind eye to because reality is complicated. Piracy of games not being sold by the company anymore is certainly by-the-books illegal, but everyone obviously recognizes that it's an entirely harmless "crime". Like smoking weed in illegal states. Everyone knows it's bullshit, so if you defend locking people up for a few grams of weed you're a bootlicker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

To be clear: I agree that both weed and emulation is a victimless "crime" and shouldn't be prosecuted. However, I don't think corporate lawyers and judges agree with us on this point.

Edit: also, Nintendo usually gets what they want by threatening to go to court without actually doing so. So the actual legality doesn't actually matter too much. Certainly doesn't when it comes to Switch emulators shutting down.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

You're right. I just hate corporate bullies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Agreed, very unpopular and underwhelming opinion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Actually, sorry, but it does. Covering your investment is one thing, being an asshole because you can is an entirely different thing. Nintendo has made it their goal to show the world they are all about the latter one.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Nintendo isn't a person. It's a corporation. When their most important game of the year is leaked and spread on the web one week before release, they are kind of pressured to conduct legal action.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So, the ROM leaking early has...what to do with emulators?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Outlets reporting on how Metroid Dread was running on emulators pre-release and describing how to pirate it makes Nintendo pursue actions to prevent that shit. They can't prevent their games leaking, so they attack the emulators.

Is this so much harder to believe than Nintendo having a personal grudge?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah? 1. You're pulling crap out of your ass. Nobody said it's a person, it's a bunch of picks running a company, we all know that. 2. They deserve to get fucked sideways with this and more for bullying people drowning them in legal action with their infinite money glitch, only because "why not?".

So, without a pinch of respect for them, you or anyone that defends their asshole behavior, fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

What exactly am I "pulling out of my ass"?

Nobody said it's a person

You're talking about Nintendo as if it's a person with phrases like your bullet point 2.

I'm not defending anyone. I'm describing how a corporation is likely to react in capitalism. I don't condone any of this: I don't condone copyright laws, I don't condone legal threats, I don't condone capitalism. I just try to describe how systems behave without trying to get morality involved by claiming a company is (or is run by) an or several assholes.

I also don't condone nuclear weapons when I describe the strategy of deterrence by mutually assured destruction.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Remember: It's always ethically okay pirating a Nintendo game

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

At this point, I think it's gone from "ethically okay" to "mandatory".

It's like downloading Metallica's newest album. Sure, I might never listen to it, but it's the principle.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Does it run on ryujinx? 🤣

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I wouldnt know

Spoiler(but yes)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Well, it works fine on the steam deck.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Probably very likely.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

With ho wierdly consistent these leaks are now.
I doubt Nintendo is smart enough to use that as a biz strategy, by like, there has to be some intention behind this from on an insider.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Hope more comes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

The first gen switch is really easy to hack. Once someone in the supply-line gets their hands on a cartridge, it's already online.