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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

I wonder if arm Linux laptops will become more of a thing.

I know Apple silicon has a lot more going on then just arm, but a Linux based device with that kind of efficiency to power ratio would be cool.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

System76, the leading US-based manufacturer of Linux computers, [...]

Bold statement.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago

Manufactured in China, Taiwan, and Vietnam.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Only one I can think of is tuxedo computers or tux computers, whatever their called. To be honest I always thought they were bigger

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago

Manufactured in China, Taiwan, and Vietnam.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Almost everyone else.

Dell, HP, Lenovo, Asus and Acer

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dell: manufactured in China, Taiwan, and Vietnam

HP: manufactured in China, Thailand, India, Mexico, Vietnam (and one plant in Indianapolis)

Lenovo: manufactured in China, Brazil, Mexico, Hungary, India, and Japan

Acer: manufactured in Taiwan, China, Malaysia, Thailand, the Philippines, Vietnam, Singapore, Japan, Korea, India, Brazil, and Hungary, with a production base in China.

System76 still wins.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I've got some bad news for you...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

They don't even sell computers from what I can see.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Eh. ARM is old news. I'd really would've liked to see them push RISC-V

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

With the most recent news about arm, I wouldn't be surprised if RISC-V got a push from larger fabs.

Bluntly, we've been computing under proprietary/licensed architectures for so long, it's time for a change. Make CPUs open source. Make them cheap.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I can't think of a us case honestly. The ARM architecture isn't well supported and the System76 Tax will make it pricey.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

arm64 is very well supported by the Linux kernel. What makes you say it’s not?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is more than just the kernel. Sure there is software that works on arm but I don't see the competitive advantage even if the workload fully supports it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

There is more than just the kernel

This is a developer desktop. Its purpose is to develop software for the ARM architecture, therefore all you need for this machine is kernel support and development tools, all of which support ARM.

I don't see the competitive advantage

What about being able to compile and test for the targeted architecture? For example, Ampere-based servers are increasingly being deployed, I don’t think there’s a car out there running x86, and Apple started a trend of ARM based laptops. There’s a new architecture in mainstream computing and those who have native ARM machines to test their products on have an advantage over those who don’t.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Markup for system76 hardware. It isn't terrible but you are paying for System76 and usually its cheaper to go elsewhere if you are looking at purely cost.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Where is cheaper?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

If I had money laying around, this would make a compelling home server. With a minimal GPU, or without one, if possible.