I wonder if arm Linux laptops will become more of a thing.
I know Apple silicon has a lot more going on then just arm, but a Linux based device with that kind of efficiency to power ratio would be cool.
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I wonder if arm Linux laptops will become more of a thing.
I know Apple silicon has a lot more going on then just arm, but a Linux based device with that kind of efficiency to power ratio would be cool.
System76, the leading US-based manufacturer of Linux computers, [...]
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Name a bigger one.
Dell?
Manufactured in China, Taiwan, and Vietnam.
Only one I can think of is tuxedo computers or tux computers, whatever their called. To be honest I always thought they were bigger
Tuxedo is German.
Ahhh
Dell.
Manufactured in China, Taiwan, and Vietnam.
Almost everyone else.
Dell, HP, Lenovo, Asus and Acer
Dell: manufactured in China, Taiwan, and Vietnam
HP: manufactured in China, Thailand, India, Mexico, Vietnam (and one plant in Indianapolis)
Lenovo: manufactured in China, Brazil, Mexico, Hungary, India, and Japan
Acer: manufactured in Taiwan, China, Malaysia, Thailand, the Philippines, Vietnam, Singapore, Japan, Korea, India, Brazil, and Hungary, with a production base in China.
System76 still wins.
I've got some bad news for you...
Eh. ARM is old news. I'd really would've liked to see them push RISC-V
With the most recent news about arm, I wouldn't be surprised if RISC-V got a push from larger fabs.
Bluntly, we've been computing under proprietary/licensed architectures for so long, it's time for a change. Make CPUs open source. Make them cheap.
I hope
Cool dev box
I can't think of a us case honestly. The ARM architecture isn't well supported and the System76 Tax will make it pricey.
arm64 is very well supported by the Linux kernel. What makes you say it’s not?
There is more than just the kernel. Sure there is software that works on arm but I don't see the competitive advantage even if the workload fully supports it.
There is more than just the kernel
This is a developer desktop. Its purpose is to develop software for the ARM architecture, therefore all you need for this machine is kernel support and development tools, all of which support ARM.
I don't see the competitive advantage
What about being able to compile and test for the targeted architecture? For example, Ampere-based servers are increasingly being deployed, I don’t think there’s a car out there running x86, and Apple started a trend of ARM based laptops. There’s a new architecture in mainstream computing and those who have native ARM machines to test their products on have an advantage over those who don’t.
“System76 tax”?
Markup for system76 hardware. It isn't terrible but you are paying for System76 and usually its cheaper to go elsewhere if you are looking at purely cost.
Where is cheaper?
If I had money laying around, this would make a compelling home server. With a minimal GPU, or without one, if possible.