Total ignorant question: how hard would it be to fork (and mostly maintain) chromium keeping manifest V2 support?
this post was submitted on 17 Oct 2024
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b-b-b-but brave will still pay me brace bux if i watch their ads right???
I've scene posts about Firefox enterprise from a business perspective. I wonder if we will see Firefox suddenly show up more in the business world. Ublock origin can save you from phishing links and malwarertizing
My company allow the usage of Firefox, Chrome and Edge and these browsers are mandatory installed on our corporate computers. But, our users just pick the Chrome and Edge.
You got to force it then
Be the shitty admin you want to see
Yeah we’ve known this was coming ever since Manifest V3 was a done deal. We’ve had years of foreshadowing and months of warning to get off Chromium.
I moved back to Firefox a few years ago on desktop and mobile. It's perfectly fine and seems less laggy that Chrome.
I hope they end up killing Chrome.
I think you're being optimistic about the number of people who both use adblockers and who care enough to switch browsers.
Yeah I fear society will get to the point in corporate autocracy, or corporate-feudalism where Google sues uBlock Origin out of existence (for lost revenue).
...and that'll be a dark day, and it will be hard not to blame the people who just put up with ads and a loss of privacy. Who can just stomach Surveillance Capitalism's incredibly flawed and one sided nature.
Those people are laying bricks for the foundation of a society I don't agree with, and don't want to participate in.
Based on every browser statistic page I can find, about 2/3 of mobile traffic is through Google Chrome. There's no ad blocker on that.
And mobile traffic is significant nowadays - it comprises around half of all traffic anywhere, despite requiring the viewer to be hunched over a phone or tablet.
Not that many people use real computers any more. At work, you may need to use a computer, but you probably can’t change the browser. At home, you have the PCMR folks who use a computer and probably also care about browsers. Everyone else just uses a tablet or a phone for browsing the web.
Speaking of the web, most people interact with specific websites through an app and an API, so they don’t even launch the mobile browser until they have to visit a site that doesn’t have an app. The world has changed and browsers aren’t as relevant as they used to be.
What? They’re not going to kill their own browser that they virtually exclusively control. Why would they kill one of their biggest cash cows? Google is an ad company, and they want control of the client software that we use which they pump ads to and exfiltrate our identities from.
Whoosh
I think they were talking about Chrome becoming obsolete. Unlikely but not impossible
Vivaldi is including its own adblock outside of the manifest system that uses many of the same blocklists that uBlock does (although at this point you have to add them manually) and hopes to get near the same functionality by the time it is pulled and Mv3 is implemented. They originally had plans to offer a Mv2 compliant area but after seeing how Mv3 was going to be implemented, they changed there plans to many users dismay.
I don't think many people use Vivaldi. Also it is mostly proprietary so that's a hard pass for me.
Roughly 92% of the browser’s code is open source coming from Chromium, 3% is open source coming from us, which leaves only 5% for our UI closed-source code.
https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/why-isnt-vivaldi-browser-open-source/
Only the UI part is not open source.
What's the point of keeping part of the UI closed source?
Partially proprietary still means proprietary.
In my personal experience, and with great regret, I must say that Brave does a better job with its built-in ad blocking than Vivaldi has. Even after I did my damnedest to tweak the ad blocker settings (adding more lists from more sources, removing the "allow some ads" list, etc).
Brave itself is filled with ads. Crypto wallets, BAT, VPNs. I just want a browser.
But how else will Brandon Eich fund his homophobia and covid conspiracies?