this post was submitted on 16 Oct 2024
1 points (100.0% liked)

Microblog Memes

5575 readers
140 users here now

A place to share screenshots of Microblog posts, whether from Mastodon, tumblr, ~~Twitter~~ X, KBin, Threads or elsewhere.

Created as an evolution of White People Twitter and other tweet-capture subreddits.

Rules:

  1. Please put at least one word relevant to the post in the post title.
  2. Be nice.
  3. No advertising, brand promotion or guerilla marketing.
  4. Posters are encouraged to link to the toot or tweet etc in the description of posts.

Related communities:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

MAGA is popular for the same reason other nationalist, fascist movements have risen over the course of modern history: as a response to Capitalist decay. MAGA isn't popular for genetic reasons, intellectual inferiority, or other reasons like that, but as a common class interest.

Fascism is most often represented as an alliance between the Petite Bourgeoisie and Bourgeoisie proper, driven by the Petite Bourgeoisie, as monopolization of Capital results in competition becoming more and more difficult, and the Petite Bourgeoisie faces Proletarianization. To prevent the Petite Bourgeoisie from joining the Proletariat in solidarity, the Bourgeoisie proper turns their hatred against the Proletariat and Lumpenproletariat.

What does this all mean, in practical, American terms? Small business owners, landlords, ie the "middle class," is shrinking in power, so the Small Business Owners are aligning with billionaires like Musk and Bezos against immigrants, workers, unhoused peopled, gender/sexual minorities, women, ethnic minorities, and more.

How do we fix this? Grow the Petite Bourgeoisie and restore their position? Absolutely not! That's when fascism is established. Trying to "turn the clock back to the good old days" results in dramatic reductions in worker rights and a solidification of power.

What we need to do is establish Socialism. A victory of the Proletariat, a folding of the large monopolist syndicates into the public sector so they can be centrally planned for the public good, rather than privately planned for profit, is the way forward. This is the way to escape fascism's rise. This is the way to defeat MAGA. I recommend reading the book Blackshirts and Reds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

This is why the Left always loses.

The Right puts forward a Ronald Reagan or Donald Trump. They give great speeches and stir up people's emotions. The Left tells people to read a book.

People still talk about Emma Goldman and Rosa Luxemburg because then understood this; they stirred the people up and got them excited.

Instead of suggesting a book, why don't you try naming an actual candidate that people can vote for? We're going to have the 2026 election a lot sooner than we're going to have a Socialist uprising.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 52 minutes ago (2 children)

Bernie was the candidate to vote for, and look what happened

[–] [email protected] 0 points 31 minutes ago

What happened?

The Left failed to get out and support him 100%. Pete Buttigieg, Warren, and a dozen other candidates split the vote and the regular Dem establishment got the most middle of the road candidate they could.

Which gets back to my original point. Instead of sitting around reading books and arguing about the Third International the Left should be a machine that can get people elected.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 46 minutes ago

Bernie would not have established Socialism either. Even if the DNC was in lock-step with Bernie, Bernie would have established a Social Democracy. Far better for the American people, but it would be a temporary solution just like FDR's Social Democracy eroded over time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The book is supplementary to the comment, I explained the big picture in my comment. Blackshirts and Reds isn't a call to action or an explanation of what to do, but an examination of fascism and Communism, who they served historically, and the material basis for them.

Voting for Harris won't stop fascism, because it won't stop Capitalist decay. You can even see her trying to appeal to small business owners, attempting to "turn the clock back," in her own campaign. Neither will voting for Claudia De La Crúz, PSL's candidate, nor will Stein, and obviously nor will Trump.

Electoralism cannot solve the conditions giving rise to fascism.

The answer is to join revolutionary orgs like the Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL) or Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO). Only through organization outside the electoral system does the Proletariat have any hope of steering the ship and seizing the reigns.

The Right puts forward a Ronald Reagan or Donald Trump. They give great speeches and stir up people's emotions. The Left tells people to read a book.

The US Empire is far-right, they can field candidates supporting the status quo in both the DNC and GOP. Liberalism is the status quo, taught from birth. Leftism requires reading, because they don't teach it in school, they censor leftism and shun it. It's a struggle, yes, but it's a winnable one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Thanks for proving my point.

I ask for one simple thing; a candidate that I can support. You couldn't do that one tiny thing.

Why don't you try actually listening to what people want instead of telling them what they should do?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 52 minutes ago (1 children)

Take your own advice chump

[–] [email protected] 0 points 40 minutes ago

What a smart way to build a powerful alliance.

Attack someone who posts anything critical instead of even trying to engage.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 59 minutes ago) (2 children)

If electoralism will not establish Socialism, what is the point of recommending a candidate? The best candidate you can vote for is Claudia De La Crúz, but she can't get 270 votes to win, because she isn't on enough state's ballots. Stein will not establish Socialism, she's a Social Democrat, and Harris is firmly right-wing. Trump is Trump, obviously he isn't the answer either.

Your desire for a simple "vote for this person and everything will be alright" does not exist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)

You keep on proving my point.

De La Cruz is unknown to 99.999% of the voters.

AOC, a NY Congress member is known to almost all voters. Everyone has heard of the Squad.

I've watched Socialists/Communists talk about the revolution since I was in middle school, and it's always "just around the corner."

Like I said, why not try to get some people elected in the next cycle?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

Because electoralism cannot establish Socialism. The Squad are not Socialists, they are Social Democrats. The only Socialist you can vote for is Claudia De La Crúz, and she cannot win because she cannot get 270 votes.

I am not "proving your point," it is physically impossible to do what you're suggesting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 27 minutes ago (1 children)

Guess what? 99.9% of the people in the country would be happy with having FDR's New Deal back in place.

Again, you prove my point. You'd rather dream about an ideal Socialist state then work to make things better right now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

They aren't dreaming, they laid out very clearly what they believe and how they believe it can be achieved.

You just keep saying "I'm rubber, you're glue".

What's your actual point? That you think the person you are replying to is stupid? That would say more about you than them in my opinion.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_complicity_in_Israeli_war_crimes_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war

STOP YANKEE SPAM. NOBODY CARE WHICH WAR CRIMER YOU’RE GONNA PICK THIS TIME. YOUR LIFE DOESN’T WORTH MORE THAN A FOREIGNER.

THROW THE HEADS OF BOTH PARTY IN SUPERMAX AND DROP THE KEY IN THE GREAT CANYON. START OVER. RESPECT GENEVAS CONVENTIONS.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_complicity_in_Israeli_war_crimes_in_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war

WHEN YOUR COUNTRY IS MORALLY BANKRUPT THE LEAST YOU CAN DO IS NOT FILL THE COMPLETE INTERNET WITH YOUR ELECTION SPAM. SHUT THE FUCK UP.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago
load more comments
view more: next ›