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Leaked Zoom all-hands: CEO says employees must return to offices because they can't be as innovative or get to know each other on Zoom::Zoom CEO Eric Yuan discussed the benefits of in-person work in a leaked meeting.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I want to start off by saying that I work from home and would like to continue doing so indefinitely. I also think these CEOs are chodes and aren't really thinking about the point I'll attempt to make next and typically do not care about such concerns.

Now, I do wonder what effect the loss of the "2nd place" (home, work, community being the "working definition" of places) for vast swathes of the American public will have in a country where the "3rd place" is already pretty non-existent.

In other words, we're already quite an isolated society. What will a large percentage of us also working in isolation have on the country and on mental health in the long run?

I think there's a potential that it could be a good effect or a bad one (or a mixture like most things), and I'm not sure which outcome is more likely.

We could become even more withdrawn from each other...or we could use the time we used to spend in traffic and with coworkers to build up local, community bonds instead. I suppose only time will tell, but I think it's an interesting discussion that I haven't seen talked about much yet.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I feel that they might change their logo to snake eating its own tail.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're in a tech job, working from home should be the default. If you're in a service job, working on-site is a requirement. This can have a negative impact on a company overall because you may have both in your workforce, and the ability to work from home breeds resentment and impacts morale.

Amidst COVID, our office workers were told to return to work. The reasoning was a perceived inequity held by the field workers toward those that sit at a desk all day. Nevermind that having everyone return up's everyone's chance for getting infected. Truth be told, those forced to come in would rather risk that than be left out.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I hope people demanded an eye-watering raise, citing the inequity in remuneration between the workers and C-suite.

Oh - you don't care about equity after all? Why do we need to come back again?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

sounds rapey

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The article is behind a paywall for me. I have to admit that I don't like online meetings and much prefer the direct contact with people. However, I can be totally productive remotely via email and chat. It's just that I don't like online meetings. Remote work is absolutely fine. It's even better for days that I am working alone on my computer and desk. I avoid all the traffic and waste of time to make myself presentable for the outside world. I've just realised that I don't like meetings with too many people in general; neither live nor online. A huge waste of everyone's time.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Wow, just wow. I liked Zoom when it was an upstart company making good tools for remote work When it got big, ugh.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I've been doing a combination of working from home and working from the office since the start of COVID. I generally only go into work when there is something broken that needs me to physically repair it. I can honestly say that the times I'm working from home, my productivity is exceptionally higher than it would be otherwise. No distractions from coworkers, a more comfortable environment, better computers and desk ergonomics, no commute.

Employers need to realize that good employees work better from home, and the ones that don't are not worth keeping on the payroll.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Something something dogfooding

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