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I wanted to share my experience with waxing my bike chains.

I was resistant to waxing my chains because it seems that a lot of people felt it was "too much work".

But having to constantly clean black shit off my chains after every ride, then spend time degreasing and re-lubing, I figured I'd try waxing when I got my gravel bike.

Now, thousands of KM later and having converted all three bikes to waxed, there's no way I'd go back. The time saved could be measured in hours per month.

First, the biggest complaint is chain prep. Yeah, regardless if you're waxing or not, you'll need to prep a new chain by removing the factory grease. With waxed, you do this once, and no more worrying about degreasing ever again. Make like easy and get Silca's chain stripper, and it's a 10 minute, one-step process.

Ongoing chain maintenance couldn't be easier. After every ride, give the chain a quick wipe (or not). My chain stays clean, even after a 200 km ride.

And if you ride in wet or dirty conditions? Guess what, you're in for a LOT of work if you lube your chain. With waxed, keep a second (or third) chain ready to go, and you just swap it out (10 seconds of effort). Take the dirty chain, give it a wipe if it's only been wet, or pour boiled water onto it if you want to "reset" the chain to bare metal. Then drop it into the waxing pot for a re-wax. You don't have to stand at the pot, so there's no real time commitment here. I've spent more time completely dirtying large microfiber cloths trying to get my chain "clean" when lubed (hint: it's never clean if you use a wet lube, not without solvents and an ultrasonic cleaner).

For actual immersion wax, I do it every 1000 km (sooner than you need to), and use a drip wax every 200 - 250 km to keep things fresh.

Honestly, wax is easier, cleaner, and takes less time to maintain vs wet lube.

The only downsides? The initial cost to get started. But this is offset by not having to replace chains or other components prematurely. You actually save money in the long-term when using waxed chains.

Some might argue that "you can't run waxed chains in muddy or constantly rainy conditions". Well, at the same time, your wet lube isn't really helping matters in those situations, either. Waxed is still better, and you can swap chains much faster than you can clean the grinding paste from a wet lubed chain.

Who would I not recommend waxed chains to? Someone who rarely uses their bike. Drip lube will be "good enough" in those cases. But anyone else would benefit from waxing their chain.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

The time saved could be measured in hours per month.

Huh? I have two bikes I ride all year round – snow, rain, sun, on and off-road. Both of them pretty well maintained, if I say so myself. I've ridden over 5.5k km this year, and I think I've spent less than an hour total on cleaning and lubing my chains.

Make like easy and get Silca’s chain stripper, and it’s a 10 minute, one-step process.

10 minutes to degrease your chain with some fancy (and expensive, I presume) stripper? Damn, nobody's got time and money for that. You can do that in less than two minutes of work, including taking the chain off and putting in back. Just put your dirty chain in a small plastic bottle with some gasoline and shake it well for a minute. After that, run it through a piece of cloth and hang outside to dry. Done.

Honestly, wax is easier, cleaner, and takes less time to maintain vs wet lube.

Yeah, sure. Not having to cook my chains every 1k km takes sooo much time xD

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Wow! Thanks for putting up this super informative post and following through so many comments. I love using a waxed chain and I think it’s definitely hard for people to jump to when their bike maintenance is essentially zero. I run wet lube on one bike for wet weather riding (like >50% of the year) so I know both sides pretty well. The wax chain is so much easier to clean and maintain it’s crazy.

It’ll be hard to convert anyone that just lets their bike run into the ground before they start taking care of it, but they’re also probably on bikes that are sub $500 and aren’t looking for efficiencies or endurance performance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It’ll be hard to convert anyone that just lets their bike run into the ground before they start taking care of it, but they’re also probably on bikes that are sub $500 and aren’t looking for efficiencies or endurance performance.

I think that's probably pretty accurate. If I had a bike kicking around that I may or may not use, I don't even think I'd be waxing that chain.

I also think that a good number of people are simply scared away by "all the work" that goes into waxing.

I'm almost looking forward to the winter, where I can really compare my experience between wax and wet lube.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm thinking this isn't really for commuters?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Why not? I'd think it would be perfect for commuters.

Cleaner, less maintenance, and long-term cost savings. 😀

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I admire your optimism! My drivetrain is due for replacement, but maybe I'll be better off just trying to maintain an oil chain and graduate to wax if I can keep it up. I could see myself investing in wax but not following through due to entrenched bad maintenance habits.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I just use some cheapo liquid chain wax on my bike and I dont clean my chain very often, I just put some new wax on the chain when it gets just even slightly squeaky. I have noticed that almost no dirt stays on the drivetrain with wax, it just falls off after a few km. Everything stuck to the chain when using oil, so its an improvement and I dont spend nearly as much effort on it as you do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

Yup! Even drip wax will give better results vs. wet lube. The cleanliness blows me away every time!

I was at a group ride and showed some of the guys how clean the chain was... wiped it with my bare hands, and nothing. That was after like 60km of riding! LOL

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't like maintaining my bike much and the waxing seems like it's something for people that do.

Just using a little bit of oil holds fine for a pretty long time for me, if I don't ride in the rain a lot. I also never degrease my chain, I'll wipe it off with rug and that's it. And I feel like the nasty black chain is mostly a thing if you used too much oil? I am happy with my chain wear and actually surprised for how long it stays fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t like maintaining my bike much and the waxing seems like it’s something for people that do.

For me, it's the opposite. Maintaining a lubed chain required far more time and patience than waxing. In that sense, I can focus more on riding my bike (or maintaining it in other ways, if I choose to).

And I feel like the nasty black chain is mostly a thing if you used too much oil?

That black is metal + dirt + oil. Basically, a grinding paste between the pins of your chain + all the crap that stuck to your chain.

I was using a single drop of wet lube, and my chain would be forever dirty after each ride. I could attempt to wipe it clean with 2 or 3 large microfiber rags, and still not get it "clean". But wiping doesn't actually clean the dirty parts where wear is occurring, so it was a never ending battle with degreasing, solvent baths, re-lubing, wiping.

I mean, sure, I could just wipe and re-lube and call it a day, but for the amount of riding I do, I'd either have to be replacing chains every month, or more expensive components a few times a year. That's not in my budget! LOL

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Yeah i guess i'm not all that picky, and granted those waxed chains look great. I read that you save hours per month in maintenance, but i don't think i spend an hour a year fiddling with my chain, haha.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe I don’t do enough? I tried degreasing my chain in jars and with one of those chain cleaner things and saw no benefit but lots of extra work and mess.

Now I never degrease. Add lube to chain on the bike, several rotations to work it in, several rotations through a rag to clean it off. Takes three minutes and I do that monthly for the road bike, weekly for MTB, and after cleaning the bike. I never have to take the chain off until I replace it.

I use wet lube on the MTB and rock n roll extra dry on road bike.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

We’re supposed to be lubing our chains?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Here's the problem:

The parts of the chain that wear out are on the inside; you can't wipe it clean.

When you use a standard lube, it attracts dirt inside the chain, and creates a grinding paste (i.e. that black crap), which will degrade the chain quickly.

As the chain wears, it wears on other components, so it cascades to the point where you'll get issues with shifting, chain skipping, etc., and components will need to be replaced.

Waxing fills the gaps where those inner components of the chain wears, effectively providing a buffer that dirt does not stick to.

You may not notice wear unless you are checking with a good quality chain checker tool, or when you start to experience issues.

How often you ride will also be a factor. Someone who rides 2000 km a year may not notice chain wear issues for 2 years. Someone riding 20,000 km might notice these problems every month.

And the more gears your bike has, the less chain wear you can get away with before it starts chewing through other components.

To me, it's an easy way to ensure longer-lasting, cleaner, quieter components, so I'll stick to it (no pun intended)!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Define quickly? Is there data showing that waxed chains last X% longer? And what is the net present value of the time needed to maintain a waxed chain? I suspect it is cheaper to replace the chain slightly more often using “good enough” procedures than to obsess about it and spend more time doing a “better” procedure.

The only way to get it all is to go full Sheldon Brown: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/chainclean.html

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Is there data showing that waxed chains last X% longer?

Yes.

And what is the net present value of the time needed to maintain a waxed chain?

From personal experience, much less time needed to maintain a waxed chain than a web lubed chain (assuming the same goal: clean chain, minimal wear).

I suspect it is cheaper to replace the chain slightly more often using “good enough” procedures than to obsess about it and spend more time doing a “better” procedure.

In the data linked above, the cost difference between waxed and standard lube, after 10,000km, is a few hundred dollars vs several thousand. With the amount of riding I do per year, this is like saving enough to buy a new bike each summer.

The only way to get it all is to go full Sheldon Brown: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/chainclean.html

Yes, for 99.9% of bike maintenance info, I also rely on Sheldon Brown. But the (extremely brief) info on wax is super outdated, and they cite articles from 2013. A tremendous amount of innovation has gone into chain wax over even the last few years!

Like I wrote in my OP, I avoided wax because I heard so many stories of it being too much trouble, but my experience has been the opposite.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Did you click the SB article I linked? It was a joke that I used to point out diminishing returns of effort. I don’t want to spend the extra time and use the extra space for equipment and extra chains needed to wax my chain.

The 5 block test method on the site you linked does not seem valid as it would change based on the sequence of blocks. It could have been designed to favor a particular lubricant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It was a joke that I used to point out diminishing returns of effort.

That was extreme, but with wet lube, I used an ultrasonic cleaner + solvents to actually clean it. Less effort than the article, but similar results.

Any other way would not be cleaning much.

The effort, even with ultrasonic + solvents, is more than waxing.

For me, the little effort saves time, money, and headache. It's worth it.

I don’t want to spend the extra time and use the extra space for equipment and extra chains needed to wax my chain.

I have a very small box, with a very small slow cooker and a hook to grab the waxed chain. It takes up less space than the solvents needed to clean a web lubed chain.

The time, at least for me, is next to nothing. Far less than constantly wiping a forever dirty web lubed chain + the ultrasonic baths and disposal of solvents.

The 5 block test method on the site you linked does not seem valid as it would change based on the sequence of blocks. It could have been designed to favor a particular lubricant.

Page 1 shows cumulative wear (one test after another), but the second page shows individual blocks, and might be more applicable for some riders.

Even in block 1, without any contamination whatsoever, all chains without wax will wear.

In block 2, which would be someone riding only in dry weather, wet lubes show significantly more wear than drip wax, and even more vs. waxed.

In the wet condition block, many of the wet lubes ironically fail past the point of excessive wear, which means you're replacing your cassette by that point.

For me, waxing is a no-brainer, especially considering the other benefits (i.e. no solvents, no dirty hands, quiet drivetrain, etc.).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

Let it be dirty. I wet lube, wipe, and let good enough be enough.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Counter-point: Here's how I lube my chain.

Whenever the squeaking annoys me too much, I apply some lube.
Done.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Same. When it rusts I replace it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

When it's time to replace it, I just buy another '90s MTB for 100€.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

You know what's even easier? Forgetting to lube your chain for a while. Then avoid lubing it out of shame to face your failure. Then measuring the chain wear after a year to discover no significant degradation.*

* Might require extra strong ebike-specific chains like KMC X11e EPT

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even easier is not caring or even knowing that you are supposed to do anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Ah, you must be one of those cyclists I can hear a mile away! SQUEAK, SQUEAK, SQUEAK!! 😂

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Another surprising thing for me is that at no point did it start making shameful noises.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Plot twist: You're actually using a carbon belt drive. 😆

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

7 years and counting. Have never had any maintenance on my belt. The Alfine 11 has had an oil change though.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or they are Dutch and have a fully-enclosed chain that never gets wet or dirty.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

One thing I've done with my winter bike is added a front fender extender (DIY), which prevents any spray from hitting the front chainrings, chain, or down tube. Last year, it was a total game changer. The only thing I couldn't really help with was spray from the rear fender, which drips downwards onto the chain and cassette.

I don't even think a Dutch-style chain guard would help prevent contamination from the rear cassette getting drenched.

But the best "winter bike" is one with an internal gear hub, and a belt drive. And an aluminum frame. Unless you really abuse the hell out of it, there should be very little to worry about.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You lost me at 10-second chain swaps and boiling water.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

You lost me at 10-second chain swaps

Wipperman connex master links. No tools required. Can be reused "for the life of the chain". Takes a second to remove and re-connect. 10 second chain swap!

and boiling water.

Unlike with traditional bike chain lube, which require some rather harsh solvents to remove. Wax can be boiled off the chain when needed. You can go back to bare metal on a waxed chain without any solvents.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Not sure if there is a lighter weight version, but I used to run wax on motorcyles, it came as a spray can and went on almost like a clear plastic coating. Game changer for chain maintenance

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

How do you melt the initial wax? Watching videos people use crockpots.

Doesn't that ruin the pot? Do you have a dedicated pot for the wax?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If you use Silcas hot melt, then you can actually just boil the bag and put the chain in there. I haven't used it like that, but instead just got an inexpensive slow cooker (most are <$25 or nearly free if second hand).

It doesn't really "ruin" the pot, but I would dedicate it to wax only.

Interestingly enough, I've discovered wax melting pots designed specifically for melting waxes (i.e. for candle making), and while they might be a little more expensive than a slow cooker, they offer finer temperature control and may be slightly more convenient to use. With a cheap slow cooker, I'm quite happy!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

Appreciate the advice!

I'll check out some thrift stores / garage sales.

We also have a few candles that could stand to be remelted and reset, so perhaps their fly by the SO better if it's for multiple uses :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Thrift stores are full of old crock pots. We used to get them for candle making.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I use a small wax heater for removing body hair. 20$ and gets the job done. If you plan to do more than one chain at a time though, it's too small. I'll probably buy a used crock pot or instant pot at some time to wax more than one chain at a time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Key and Peele would be proud of your use on the chain wax

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I prefer belt drive with a sealed internal geared hub. It's not for everyone or every situation but it's nice riding in the wet and just putting the bike away after without thinking about cleaning and lubrication

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I even use waxed chain through salt and snow. Hosed off once I get to work then compressed air to get the water off. Home side I hose it off then detach it and swish it in a tub of isopropyl and the next chain in the rotation goes on.

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