carnism = death
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Hopefully it was a bunch MAGATs and the bear got the last laugh. RIP Mr. Bear.
Who is eating bears?
- RFK Jr. (roadkill)
- Hunters
- Goldilocks
people that want to follow the substance hunting rules.
That's a funny typo 😆
Probably Libertarians in New Hampshire.
Yeah for real. Bear is so gamey. It's really only worth eating in a stew, cooked until it's beyond well done and falling apart.
Other than the large number of people, this is not much of a story. Living in a place where bear hunting has a legal season, ( it just finished up here), how to properly cook bear meat is well known. So the risk is virtually zero. This sounds like a case of an ignorant cook serving badly prepared food. Not much different than a cook serving salad greens that were improperly washed and poisoning a large number of people with salmonella.
The moral of the story is: Learn how to cook foods properly with proper sanitation if you are going to serve a bunch of people. And the knowledge of how to it properly is a mere google search away.
Circle of life.
Don’t try to be Kennedy.
Don't try to be that Kennedy.
JFK's daughter Caroline seems to be a basically sensible person.
I'm vegan but when people question my manhood, I tell them I love eating bear balls and I invite them to a hunt. Then, when we finally find a bear with balls that are worthy of me breaking my veganism, I just run. I usually only invite stupid people who are not more athletic than myself. It works out. Everyone gets a story to tell.
"When coming upon a dragon while adventuring with a halfling, one need not outrun the dragon, only the halfling."
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Next they'll be telling you not to drink raw whale milk.
You can milk anything with nipples
Trichinosis is rumoured to be "what done for" the franklin expedition to find the north west passage.
The Jens Monk expedition lost 62 men to Trichinosis, and returned home with only 3 men alive.
https://canadiangeographic.ca/articles/jens-munk-an-expedition-ahead-of-its-time/
I love reading about these guys, just so courageous. I'm sat here looking at spreadsheets worrying about emails. These guys did the equivalent of flying to mars in a washing machine, battling ferocious martians, succumbing to a war of attrition against a mysterious ailment, before un-dying and coming back home.
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I always thought it was bad to eat meat from carnivores. No idea where I heard that, but I've always accepted it as truth.
I don't think that applies in a broad sense if you include fish , but everything I know about bear meat says that you have to cook the shit out of it specifically to kill the many parasites that the bear'a immune system keeps at bay (but doesn't completely destroy) while it's alive. Eating rare bear meat is incredibly stupid.
Eating any rare wild game is stupid.
You’re eating a wild animal, you have no idea what it’s been eating, drinking, or rolling around in. Cook the hell out of it.
Last time I made elk, I slow cooked it for like 8 hours. It was fall apart tender, but it had been in boiling broth for many hours. You can make delicious meals with wild game, you just have to cook it right.
Biomagnification is a thing, but people still eat tons of carnivores, like fish.
Eg for biomagnification is tuna has a high amount of mercury.
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Iirc it's the liver of carnivores you cannot eat. It has a really high Vitamin A content and can be toxic.
Edit it was Vitamin A
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Is it brain worms?
Kinda. Trichinosis will eat your eyeballs eventually if allowed to progress far enough.
Fuck anyone who hunts bears.
There is a natural order to prey and predators.
If you're going to hunt a predator, and it's not for sanctioned wildlife management culls, get a Bowie knife and have at it. Otherwise, I hope you suffer a horrible death.
I'm not anti-hunting, at all. Hunting is easily the most humane way to eat meat. But hunting predators is a sport, not subsistence.
You can pretty much guarantee that anyone who hunts predators for sport, is a gigantic asshole and you should not feel bad about wishing them harm. I would take that statement even further, but I don't want the mods to remove this comment.
To be clear, no one likes bear meat, they're opportunistic scavengers. These bears were hunted for sport most likely, but the hunters were slightly better than your average bear hunting asshole, and at least didn't waste the meat. Most likely because it would be a wasted kill, and illegal.
There is a certain case I advocate bear hunting: bears that gain a proclivity for human environments or for humans as prey. It's rare, though, and can (and should) be handled by wildlife management personnel whenever reasonable.
Yes, I specifically excluded sanctioned/lawful wildlife management practices.
Unfortunately you'll see this a lot with polar bears, which is one of the reasons why proper waste management is so critical in Arctic towns/villages.
Poor waste management practices are capable of attracting more than just polar bears, but they are the most dangerous, for a host of reasons.
I’m not anti-hunting, at all. Hunting is easily the most humane way to eat meat.
Ironically, hunting deer is now necessary here in Indiana because people hunted all the bears and wolves to extinction and now the deer population explodes and they all starve to death if hunters don't keep the population in check.
The California Grizzly was hunted to extinction for a number of reasons, but among them was that it was said to be delicious. Black bears aren’t really meat scavengers - they eat a lot of insects, berries, and some foliage. Actually pretty similar to the diet of a chicken. Tuna eat more meat than bears.
I wish gun owners would advocate more for hunting invasive species, like in the US there's too many feral hogs and nutria.
They do. Texas allows ariel hunting of hogs, there's no season, and no tag limit. I know lots of other areas have similar approaches of differentiating hunting laws and seasons when it comes to invasive species.
All the hunters I've known, have been an outdoor guys and nature conservationists, but also conservative usually.
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I thought this disease sounded familiar. Trichinosis - Wikipedia
While the most common vector in the U.S. is now bear meat, that wasn’t always the case. The most common human infection vector used to be undercooked pork!
Many older folks won’t touch pork unless it’s well done, because apparently these parasites make your muscles feel like they’re on fire.
A history teacher (many years ago) even told my class that trichnosis was the reason Jewish people don’t eat pork. (A quick internet search throws water on that. Doesn’t rule it out, but it’s not guaranteed to be correct, either.)
While I agree that hunting apex predators (or, really, any sport hunting) is kind of dumb, I do want to note that pigs famously eat slop and bathe in their own shit and bacon is delicious. Which is to say, we probably can’t assume taste based on diet/lifestyle
Yep, my grandmother went through the Great Depression and didn't eat pork unless it was well done. For example, bacon had to be crispy.
Turns out trichinosis can kill children, and not silently in their sleep.
These days, commercial pork is highly regulated and safer to the point you only have to be cautious with smaller ranches.
Unpasteurized milk has a similar story, but my grandmother swore drinking that as a child was why she never had osteoporosis.
Me? It's 2024, most food lacks nutritional value, so I cook everything to temp and take supplements
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If I'm eating meat from a wild animal I'm cooking it long and slow to kill anything it might have.
My favorite is putting some deer meat and sauerkraut in a crock pot for 6-8 hours and slapping it on toasted rolls with mustard. A friend did that with a deer they hit with a car and it was amazing and I don't think I have any brain worms.
Just get it tested for chronic wasting disease if that's a thing in the area you live. Cooking probably can't kill that, as it's a prion disease.
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