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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

They aren't organized by the Sate. They have no official authority. So they aren't really a Militia.
They are a literal gang.
Stop calling them Militia.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Militia isn't defined by being part of the State.

It's a term used to describe a military force comprised of civilians. There's even a modern connotation of being against the state.

a military force that engages in rebel or terrorist activities in opposition to a regular army.

Gangs aren't purely for military purposes, so if the purpose of this gang is an armed attack against a govenrment agency, then it's not unreasonable to call them a militia.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So a militia, comprised of terrorists.... seems fair.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

I don't understand. Do you find that confusing?

Boiled down, "militia" doesn't mean much more than "group of non-soldiers organised in a soldier sort of way with the intention of doing soldier sort of things".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think the term is private vs state militias, and with this article being about armed militias, we are talking about armed private vs armed state militias. I think technically all 50 states have laws on the books that prohobit various forms of private armed militia activity. Is it enforceable? Maybe, but that would maybe probably cause a nation wide incident given the amount of violence these groups can wield (though they would probably still lose against any organized state militias or any official state/federal military force), as well as increase the chance of a homegrown insurgency popping up. That's just my armchair opinion or thought about it though, I'm just armchairing here.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Call them terrorists. That's what they are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

paramilitars

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So how about the cops do their fuckin jobs and go round up these people.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They did. The threat was established to be incorrect and the lone person making the threat was detained, and workers are back in the area.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2024/10/13/federal-officials-nc-temporarily-relocated-amid-report-armed-militia-email-shows/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Detained on a misdemeanor and released. It's also not clear whether these are two separate reports.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

The Washington Post article goes over the threats and there is nothing substantiating the armed militia.

It would be a bit odd to me for the national guard to report to the US Forestry that they saw an armed militia and wouldn't be actively pursuing it. Seems more likely is was a miscommunication in a hectic environment.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe some of them ARE cops.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

They can’t be threatening FEMA and helping them!!!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This has to be the dumbest thing I’ve read in a while and I get a lot of dumb shit these days.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong - isn't FEMA a government organization.

As is people are literally hunting federal agents in a disaster zone?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes exactly. Federal relief agency cleaning up and assisting after a disaster.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And where is the response to this?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’

  • Ronald Reagan, 1986.

Many Americans truly believe that all government is actively working against them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I wonder how many are on SNAP, medicaid or medicare?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

..until they need help, in which case they cry for it hasn't been swift and effective.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How are those fuckers not in jail?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Another article said this is wrong. There was one 44 yr old from Bothic that's been arrested but no militia... Yet.

https://apnews.com/article/fema-threats-disaster-workers-rutherford-county-armed-militia-dbb6b5727eaa12e79f307bf38a4b6256

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Just to clarify, as far as I can tell, the trucks were reported by the National Guard to the US Forest Service who notified FEMA. The other was a call to a sheriff's office about a single individual. It's quite possible these are two actual but different things.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is why we can't have nice things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

It really is. One of the reasons, anyway.