I would be worried to if I had just given the president immunity for all official acts. Example of a worrisome formula: Biden + official act + seal team 6 + corrupt supreme court judges = no need to pack the court to give it a liberal majority.
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Why is there a presumption of immunity? Even when there is clear self-serving corruption, the presumption of immunity takes precedence. This will go down in history as an abysmally bad decision.
Shaken? Right because you weren't being a partisan hack when the special counsel asked to skip straight to proceedings because they know the court wanted to issue a ruling and he drug your feet buying donald time. Then handed him powers not afforded in the constitution. But keep clutching those pearls.
This is why The French invented things.
People like him dont get shaken about the opinions of the commoners. He couldnt possibly care less.
Roberts was left shocked that Americans didn’t buy his attempt to persuade them that his ruling was not about Trump, but instead focused on the office of the presidency. The court ruled that a president was largely immune from criminal prosecution for official actions.
AND WHICH FUCKING PRESIDENT'S ACTIONS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE, JOHN?
Remember folks: political violence is totally justified and not authoritarian a long as it's not against a Democrat!
Democrats are the chosen political party! They are better than you! They know what's best for you! Fuck you for having any ideals that go against their infallible ideology!
You're a stupid piece of shit if you aren't a Democrat! So you deserve violence against you!
It's not terrorism, it's "fuck you, you are stupid and deserve it!"
99% of political violence in this country is from your side, but its a classic republican move to attempt to blame everyone else with the charges of the stuff your side is actually doing itself. So you're just a tired and not very original liar/troll. Arent there snowflake/safespace threads you should be on? You might get your feelings hurt here or god forbid, talk to a female and that would be a real tragedy because you might go hurt someone because of it. Or kick/kill an animal seems to be the thing your side prattles on about lately isnt it.
But yes, boohoo you're a victim and dems are violent. message received.
" your side".
See, people just assume that if you don't agree with the general ideology, you are an enemy.
I tend to agree with most socially "left" ideas, but because I don't want tax money to go toward wars or abortion as a form of birth control, I am a totalitarian piece of shit.
There is no nuance anymore. It's always: "you are either with us or against us" mentality. And there is absolutely NO WAY you can tell me that's not the case (at least on social media).
See, people just assume that if you don't agree with the general ideology, you are an enemy.
You're the one that came in with "Democrats bad". This was about "of course presidents shouldn't have immunity FFS."
Do you feel the same way about medicine and food?
Democracy, medicine and food all have the same goal, making life better.
Being against democracy is like criticising someone for eating or using antibiotics.
Are you just admitting to being a complete moron here?
I feel that the product of someone else's labor is not a right just because you want the product but don't want to go through the process of learning how to create that product. Just because it's a specialized trade doesn't mean you automatically have a right to it!
Man, fuck off with this partisan bullshit
Fuck him. Burn in hell fuck face.
Bullshit.
If he didn't expect it then he's a moron.
He is not a moron.
Either stupid or lying... possibly both but definitely at least one or the other.
I don’t know, money and position in a stratified social power structure are not strong indicators of intelligence
Can't a man undermine democracy in peace now?
well la de da. fuck him.
He's an out of touch rich asshole. I'm less surprised at his shock than I am surprised by him giving a fuck.
He wasn't shocked and he doesn't give a f***. The article is just an attempt for him to garner sympathy.
You actually believe the headline?
Oh he’s shocked everyone else doesn’t suck trump dick?
You mean the one where he ruled that the United States has a government of men, and not of laws?
Maybe this columnist thinks he's "shaken", but I doubt it. The reason he acted in a more moderate way before was that the Christian Nationalist justices didn't have a strong majority and the ability to impose their agenda with impunity. The minute they had a 6-3 majority, he knew they could do whatever they wanted, and they have.
The only thing we can do about it now is elect as many Dems as possible to the House and Senate and pressure them to impose term limits and expand the Court, things that should have been done a long time ago.
And please, regardless of whether you think your vote for POTUS will count, vote anyway and fill out your full ballot because you have much more influence on your State legislature and local offices, which is where so many things that affect your life are decided.
Term limits are defined by the Constitution and require an Amendment. See the 22nd:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
We are currently too divided to pass any Amendment right now.
Yes, but the proposal is to implement a senior status, benching (heh) justices after a period of time, calling them up in case a starter recuses or is otherwise incapacitated.
Technically still appointed, and composition is done by law not the constitution.
Only flaw is the body that decides if this approach is constitutional is the one being curtailed.
pressure them to impose term limits and expand the Court
No amount of voting will implement this pressure. This has been the chronic problem: electoral victories don't translate into pressure for any given policy.
Biden was very specific that he was against expanding the court, and Harris is taking up every single policy position Biden did, so we can probably take this up again in 4-8 years.
Who said electoral victories translate into pressure for a given policy? Voting them into office gets them to where they have power and can then be pressured to wield it for our benefit, which is a different type of political action than an election. Voting in elections is how you try to get people who are closest to the values you're looking for into office--and the primaries are as important as the general for that.
Organizing around an issue, speaking out with meetings, in the media, with protests, etc., calling attention and building up support for a cause--all those things exert pressure on elected officials. Read about movements in American history -- the civil rights movement, women's liberation, etc. and BTW you want to know a movement that was very effective? The fucking Tea Party movement, which led to the maga takeover of the republican party.
For some reason (lack of proper civics education in schools is part of the problem), people have this simplistic idea that all they have to do is go vote for a president every four years, get pissed that they don't like the choices, and assume that the POTUS is supposed to somehow magically fix everything, not understanding the other branches of government involved, and when it doesn't happen fast enough or at all, they get pissed and either vote for someone else or give up and don't vote or fall for a populist conman or get violent or whatever. That's not how it works!
No wonder we're where we are today. I'm sick of even talking about it any more. If people refuse to educate themselves about how our system of government is supposed to work and act accordingly then it's over, and we as a country deserve to fall into the fascism brought to us by the people who did make the effort to figure out how to achieve their agenda and went out and did it.
I guess what I mean is uncritical votes for Democrats across the House and Senate doesn't guarantee any pressure. Shit that is probably the most viable arena for third party candidates or at least candidates caucusing on a specific policy issue that people get behind, especially during primaries for each and every cycle.
Maybe I'm just being salty because my entire downballot this year is all Democrats running on working with Republicans and Republicans running on working against the Democrats.
One democrat in my old district is literally running on opposing Biden and helping Republicans with the southern border. My state borders Canada.
Every single time the SC does something outrageous some version of this article comes out proclaiming his deep held belief in justice and whatever else. And every time it is complete bullshit.
It's like some journalists fucking fanfic desperately wishing that these people's consciouses are eating them up inside. Meanwhile they go home to their mansions and continue to happily live their comfortable lives. It's not even that they know they won't face consequences for their actions (which they won't), it's that they think they have done nothing wrong at all. They believe themselves to be morally in the right.
"Shaken"? Don't kid yourself. He's as content and happy as a pig in shit.
Maybe this columnist thinks he’s “shaken”, but I doubt it.
cover for the next batch of heinous shit they're gonna pull
Lithwick pointed to legal reporter Linda Greenhouse, who asked on Slate's podcast how Roberts could "have been so clueless about where this opinion was going to leave a court that has already been really battered in public opinion ever since the run-up to Dobbs?… What this says to me is that he and other members of his majority live in a kind of bubble.”
He may have been able to persuade himself that he was doing something positive. Alito and Thomas don't live in a bubble. They are very consciously forcing their dogma on the rest of us with no sense of guilt or shame.
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