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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (5 children)

It's so weird that YouTube is their second most profitable venture after adsense. It's like they thought, we have a virtual monopoly on internet ads, Internet video, and web browsers. Let's combine their power to make people watch non stop ads while tracking them worse than the CIA. Then, let's be very surprised when people don't like us and we get hit with antitrust lawsuits. Fuck Google.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (16 children)

The fact that I cant go to YT and select play all on a channel anymore makes its primary use, music, pointless to me.

Another issue is Pandora, they keep forcing mobile site on Desktop User Agent setting and I work too many hours to go in and change the identifiers needed to make it work. Their app is busted as well, it asks for permissions and will semi-frequently crash when I dont give them permissions.

The whole internets basically becoming shit because of corporate incompetence. Not even willful malice, just idiocy.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

nothing to see here :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Unless I'm mistaken, none of those will block server-side ads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Isn't there some law that you have to visually indicate whether a given piece of content is sponsored (ad) or not? Can't that just be detected by ad blockers to skip/hide ads?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

European law says you need to identify paid content, it's up to the channel to decide how, it's usually "AD" written in a moderately contrasty color in the top right of the screen

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There isn't a law that I'm aware of, but typically the ad needs to be un-skippable/seek-able, which means there will always be some indication to the video player of what the user can skip or fast forward through.

That doesn't mean Google couldn't just make fast forwarding/seeking a premium feature, but they'd lose a lot of user appeal if they did so they probably wouldn't do that

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Germany has this law, sponsored segments must be clearly labelled. But one could just hash the ad anyways or just try to fast forward and if it doesn't work and it would be the ad.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Even if they do this, I wouldn't be averse to a less on demand version of youtube. 3rd party apps will let you load a number of videos for later viewing. Would probably help me consume media more responsibly and youtube has to deal with the additional resources needed to serve all the videos I didn't wind up watching after all.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not sure about the mechanism, but isn't this the same thing as ancient early DVR's like TiVo that would record from the cable stream and omit the ads segments?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (6 children)

That's the thing, I don't think the mechanism exists (or works) yet. I'm confident it will someday, but I didn't think it worked yet.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

They can block some kinds of server-side ads. And if google has those already, they have been quite successful against youtube.

But yeah, they won't block all server-side ads.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd be satisfied with replacing the ad segment with some other video temporarily.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

IIRC, Twitch uses similar ad injection. Ad blockers get around it by opening new video streams until they find one that isn't running an ad. Could be wrong though, I'm parroting an uncited comment.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Peertube is holding the folded chair ready for action

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have serious doubt's but it seems to be the best option right now

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I love how people will complain about ads on YouTube and then go on to complain that PeerTube sucks because "who's going to pay the hosting fees?" 🙄 For the record I like PeerTube but Android clients are ass right now

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's not my biggest complaint. The problem is it isn't being pushed forward. It needs some serious work to even be remotely compared to YouTube.

It is getting better but I don't think the current leadership is agrees I've enough. I'd like to see it move to its own legal entity with dedicated budgeting. They need to raise some serious money to get competitive. Developers are expensive but they do much better work than a few French guys.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If they put the ads in the stream, you can just fast-forward. I don’t think it’ll work out well for Google.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

not pictured: the pihole just out of frame, holding a shotgun

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How do you use Pihole to block YouTube ads?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Block youtube.com. Quite effective, if you ask me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

all these people missing the part where I said "holding a shotgun" -- I guarantee you'll never see a YouTube ad again if no data from their servers ever gets past your router. It's not a subtle or precise option, but it is highly effective. Much like a shotgun.

Then you can just use peertube or invidious.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Invidious is currently out of order. Not sure if they would be able to cut out the ads.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

never underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of spiteful pirates. It's been a while since I last used invidious, but I can't imagine it being permanently broken. in the meantime -- Piped, then?

If things get real stupid, we might have to employ AI to identify and strip ads from videos before mirroring. edit: Someone has, in fact, already trained an AI to identify ads in a video, with apparently 97.4% accuracy. So, the hard part's already been done.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

You can't. I have no idea what this person is talking about.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

??? Pihole never blocked YouTube ads.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I want the content of the original photo

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What's funny to me is how they are in a fight for their company with the FTC, and they want to continue provoking people by increasing their revenue on the back of their users on a service they might have a technical monopoly on? Hmmmm...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Provoking people and in dispute with FTC don’t relate but if the FTC broke them up then you would really regret not cashing in while you could

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

This is just wrong. None of those will prevent server side ads.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Until Google demanded from its vassal (Mozilla) the removal of support for extensions. Mozilla doesn't have enough resources to do without Google

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