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The JillStein Bot explaining why Joe Biden shouldn't be allowed to be the next president, really not updating their talking points
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No, they're just super efficient and very good at planning. They know that Joe Biden can technically still be president for another term, so they're heading him off on his 2028 comeback run. /s
Ps hello fellow lawyer.
Didn't the staff behind AMA leave during the APPocalypse shit? I remember seeing something about how they've basically stopped vetting people to verify they are who they claim to be for these and I'm wondering how full of bots and trolls that sub is now.
If by staff you mean "volunteers", then yes. The actual Reddit staff that helped facilitate AMAs disappeared during the Ellen Pao drama.
American democracy is fucked because the voters themselves stoped believing that the two party system is bad.
You can’t be critical of both parties at once. One is evil, another is pure love.
Oooh no, don't you clump all of us together. A LOT of us fucking despise the two party system for the trash heap it is.
The two party system is hot flaming garbage.
In order for ranked choice voting on a national level to get incorporated, the elected officials have to vote to change the system that put them in power. Neither of the two parties' politicians wants that, since it would then be easier for someone else to potentially beat them, so it doesn't happen.
Anybody that understands politics understands that the two-party system is shit. They also understand that unless both parties agree that they don't like it and want to willingly allow more competing parties to sabotage their own efforts, it will never change.
So, saying that US democracy is fucked just because of that is a load of bullshit. Almost all democracies have two-party systems like that. Not even fucking Canada wanted to change their FPTP system, even when conservatives were abusing the system for 15 years. It was so bad that liberal voters in 2014 election had to tell their other liberal like-minded candidates "Yes, we like you, and we like your policies, but for the sake of the country's future, we have to vote for Trudeau."
You'll notice politicians largely stopped doing AMAs back in 2016 when /r/The_Donald completely swamped the system. Given the degree to which Reddit is a system by and for bot-farms, Jill was sticking her foot squarely into a bear trap just by setting this up.
I feel like this isn’t the first disastrous ama she’s done on there. I searched for 2 minutes and didn’t find anything though
Someone linked her 2016 post claiming WiFi causes cancer.
That is absolutely ridiculous and also absolutely on brand for her.
She did fine, if anything it was eye opening to me how many shitlibs are on r/politics
Taking Jill Stein seriously? You ok?
Notable differences between Stein and Harris:
- opposes genocide in Gaza
- opposes fracking
- stronger on the environment
- approves of single payer healthcare
- approves of tuition free colleges for all
- wants to slash our bloated military budget
I live in a blue state and will be voting Green to try to build momentum for third parties and STAR voting. I do hope Trump is defeated and thrown in jail, and I'd reconsider my vote if I lived in a purple state.
If you want to get any real momentum for third parties, throwing your vote away isn't it.
Voting blue in a solid blue state for a candidate I have huge moral issues with (Palestine, climate change) is the definition of throwing my vote away.
You're still throwing your vote away.
Even if I accept that any state is really as solid blue as people may think, we have the opportunity as a nation to cast an overwhelming vote against fascism. That would be sending a message that the entire free world could be proud of. Nah, you can't be bothered. You'd rather cast your vote for a Putin asset.
Even if I accept that any state is really as solid blue as people may think, we have the opportunity as a nation to cast an overwhelming vote against fascism.
I'm voting for the Green party, not a fascist.
That would be sending a message that the entire free world could be proud of.
The entirety of the United Nations except the US and Israel has condemned the massacre in Gaza as a genocide. You think everyone would be proud of voting for someone who intends to continue to ship weapons to Israel?
You’d rather cast your vote for a Putin asset.
No proof and regardless this is bigger than Jill Stein, this is about building power to the left of the Democratic party. Claudia De la Cruz would definitely be my preferred candidate over Stein, but it is what it is.
"I also want to thank your father, Vice President Dick Cheney, for his support and what he has done to serve our country. "
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kamala-harris-campaign-liz-cheney-wisconsin-republicans/
"I think it would be to the benefit of the American public to have a member of my Cabinet who was a Republican.”
She literally sat down with putin, and you're whatabouting some bipartisan shit.
What time is it, by the way?
Your candidate is touting the support of the man who engineered the invasion of Iraq under false pretenses, and Republicans in general rolled back abortion (which is going to cost the lives of many women) and are against climate action (which is going to completely fuck over future generations, if not the current ones).
Please explain to me how throwing them a bone is going to make things any better. They're extremist fuckers and Democrats should have a bold progressive plan instead of throwing them a bone.
But go ahead, continue to vote shame instead of taking a long look in the mirror.
Seriously, fuck Dick Cheney.
Welcoming support from the opposing party is the same as killing women through legislating health care. Gotcha. What time is it where you are?
If you can't see that we have real problems in this country that neither party is solving, you need to get a fucking grip.
I'm done with you, you're the one who decided to engage on a days old thread.
It's so weird you immediately list the differences between Stein and Harris, but not Trump. Totally unprompted. Considering that a third party is going against the other two, that's odd. Almost like you know exactly what you're doing, but won't admit it.
Why would I list the differences between Stein and Trump when I literally just said that I hope Trump loses (and thrown in jail). At no point was I ever considering voting for him. The whole point is that the third part isn't part of the corporate duopoly.
I'm explaining why I'm voting my conscience in a rigged FPTP system where my vote otherwise amounts to nothing (because again I'm in a blue state), but clearly nothing I say is going to stop you from making insinuations.
You’re full of shit
Ah, name-calling instead of addressing my argument; classic!
Okay, but who is going to vote for those things if the Greens don't win any House or Senate seats, even if they win the presidency?
Hey I just want to say I appreciate you treating me with respect which is more than I can say for a bunch of other commenters here.
I think the president has a decent amount of power, even with a hostile congress. They can declare a climate emergency, and get funding for renewable energy that way; they can enforce an arms embargo or other sanctions (on say, Israel), they can use the bully pulpit to point out the hypocrisy of congress's inaction.
But the most important thing to come out of it would be that the Democratic party would be forced to listen to people on the left, and not just court right wingers all the time.
@lemmy.ml
No, they aren't, and they won't be getting better, either.
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