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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Economically I'm leaning right - I want the state to provide free healthcare, schools, universities etc but founding a company has to be easier, we can't afford to keep pouring 1/3 of our yearly budget into pensions on top of the budget for pensions etc.

Socially I'm leaning left - I don't care at all if someone is trans, homosexual, whatever, and want men and women to have equal rights.

So I am neither left or right. And there also is a party that aligns with most of my beliefs (and is against some others but there never is a perfect party).

The issue is that internet politics are often viewed from a USA-centric standpoint. When I say I'm neither left nor right (because it depends on the topic, as explained above) I see memes like that come up. Although my economically right views for my country would be far left from an US-american standpoint anyway.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Economically I’m leaning right - I want the state to provide free healthcare, schools, universities etc but founding a company has to be easier, we can’t afford to keep pouring 1/3 of our yearly budget into pensions on top of the budget for pensions etc.

The policies you listed would be considered left leaning. Conservatives generally want to defund healthcare, schools, universities, etc in favor of implementing a private for-profit model. Although, I'm confused what you mean by making a business easier to create, and what that has to do with pensions and putting in more than 1/3 of a business' operating budget into pensions. Seems like an unrelated issue.

Socially I’m leaning left - I don’t care at all if someone is trans, homosexual, whatever, and want men and women to have equal rights. So I am neither left or right. And there also is a party that aligns with most of my beliefs (and is against some others but there never is a perfect party).

Actually, your policy priorities you've listed here make you staunchly left on the political spectrum.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The issue is that internet politics are often viewed from a USA-centric standpoint. When I say l'm neither left nor right (because it depends on the topic, as explained above) see memes like that come up. Although my economically right views for my country would be far left from an US-american standpoint anyway.

(Self-quoting my comment you replied to)

I'm from Austria, we have a functional social system covering healthcare, schools, universities and similar, but due to decades of regulations it is now extremely complicated and needlessly inefficient and therefore expensive (my father is a doctor so I have quite a bit of insight in the inefficient system).

Although, I'm confused what you mean by making a business easier to create,

We have so many regulations for everything, it'd be great if we just were able to create a business online within like a day. Currently we're losing quite a few start up founders to other countries and our economy has entered recession.

and what that has to do with pensions and putting in more than 1/3 of a business' operating budget into pensions. Seems like an unrelated issue.

In our very recent election one of the main points of our strongest left wing party was that they want to further increase the budget for pensions ("if someone has worked their whole life they should be rewarded for it properly" - 60+ is by far the biggest voting group...), and it's pretty obvious that the current system doesn't work (that's why so much of our general budget has to be added every year, and more every year).

Our system works in a way where the working people pay for the people who are currently in retirement and when we are in retirement the new workers will pay for us. This system was established after ww2 when there were few old people and many young ones, so... 5? iirc working people were paying for one in retirement. Currently two are paying for one in retirement, and the trend is heading towards one paying for one in retirement.

We need a rework there to update it for today's societal structure instead of promising people to add even more of the general budget to pensions (...populism to get 60+ people to vote for them).

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, it's about the American political system. Well it's broken anyways, so that explains the many comments lacking any nuances.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Is the political system broken, or are the citizens on the hook for electing genociders?

You only get to choose one, I'm afraid.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What a freaking circle jerk this comment section is. Could you be more self-righteous?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Please describe someone who could be considered neither left nor right. Is it possible you are viewing the absence of left-wing qualities as being right-wing?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

that's like asking for any media that is not political

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This perfectly describes how the Far Left sees everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not sure who you're taking about, America has a right wing party and a far right wing party.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks for proving my point.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Most of the time this exact meme is reposted by a red fascist zealot though

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Saw this gem today and it reminded me of this post

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What an utterly bizarre view they have.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

It’s a shame they lack the critical thinking to realize they lack critical thinking

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (7 children)

i mean, i dont think this is blatantly wrong i mean it's not correct either, i think the main failing in their viewpoint is that trump and the maga crowd are literally fucking insane.

But if we woke up tomorrow and trump didn't exist, they would all be gone.

I don't think all far lefties are fucking mental, but i've definitely met my fair share of tankies and people who pretend to know politics while being super fucking wrong. I've also met plenty of reasonable far lefties though so. Goes both ways.

The far right is insane, Similar to the opposing factions of the far left, though i think those are probably smaller. The MAGA right is literally just a deluded group of stupid people, it's just fascism doing fascism. The moderate right is probably not voting for trump, and if they are, they're just stupid. The rest are independents, from there you start getting into the moderate left, which is generally more "centrist" than the moderate right, so they're a lot more willing to reach across ideological differences if it aligns with their general understanding of the world. (the kamala harris campaign) past that idk, you get weird mixes of entrenched dems, and the fringe sub groups of socialists, anarchists, shit like that, though they will generally align with the broader left, i think. Past this you have the "far left" israel palestine types, tankies, uber socialists/communists, the diehards. People that don't care about anything other than the thing they espouse.

This has been my reading on the political sphere over the last few years or so.

Generally, i think the left, currently is a lot more cohesive than the right, the right seems to be undergoing an ideological fracture right now, which is interesting. I think the defining difference is the lack of a "blue MAGA" so to speak.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

on reddit, there's a place that requires you to flair yourself with your political compass, flaired myself centrist (after someone said "FLAIR UP!!!!!"), someone said "NO YOU'RE NOT!!!", later took the political compass test, came out centrist.
guess what i am now, given where i currently am

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Anything but far-right, or as the Reddit PCM community would say, [insert series of slurs here]

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

"I'm no Trump supporter, but..." is the new "I'm no racist, but...".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I feel like it's much more often someone being called left when they're really a liberal, fash, red fash, etc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

After the VP debate, I was stuck under two babies and couldn't get up before CBS did it's spin room coverage and fake analytics. During their focus group of 6 undecideds, I nearly fucking lost it when one said "I like that Vance said he's pro-family".

This shit repeated on my stream I was watching several times and I inevitably woke up my 8mo having to get to the computer before every last drop of my sanity was gone.

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