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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sweet, I just need a small, interest-free loan of 3 million dollars and I'll pay you back $10,000 a month for 300 months. Don't believe me? Here, check out my credit report.

Credit report: trust me bro

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The remaining $10000 will only be worth 2500 in 30 years time, assuming 5% inflation per year...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Whose side are you on here, me the plucky underdog, or some multimillionaire with money to burn

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

yeah i'll get right on that

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So I know this is satire but I wouldn't buy a us bond. I would much rather buy one from a stable country.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The US economy is like the most stable economy in the world. And they don't double tax you, depending on where you live and the tax treaty.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

We have had 2 assassination attempts on someone running for the highest public office in the country in 3 months. One of the people currently running for office who has a chance at winning tried lost the last election they were in and then tried to take over the government by force.

Our country is not stable.

I would much rather invest in a more stable country like Sweeden or Switzerland.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

There is literally a gang war going on on the streets in sweden. How does that count as stable?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Politically, maybe, but economically, the US remains a major powerhouse, and if nothing else, that might be the sole factor that makes them try to keep things stable.

It's one of the few things much of the wealthy and the not-so-wealthy tend to both want, particularly for those who have a decent amount of wealth tied up in the American market, and a fair amount of money might be spent to that end.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Oh wow tell me more about Sweeeden. What knowledge do you have that makes you think that tiny economy is more stable than the US economy?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Just 10 or 12 years ago or so, the US and EU had comparably sized economies. Today the EU economy is between 25% to 30% smaller than the US one. And yes, I include the UK in the EU calculations just to prove the point. The reason? Higher stability and growth on average. What might seem like small differences on a year-on-year basis add up and prove to be quite substantial in terms of decades.

So you can invest in Swedish and Swiss bonds and/or companies if you want, but chances are you're gonna lose out compared to person investing in US-based entities.

Sincerely,

An EU citizens who is sick of hearing Americans bashing their own country based on ignorance. There's plenty of reasons to be upset with and critical of the US. But an unstable economy is not one of them, relatively speaking. Get your facts straight.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

It's almost like not starting a war in 500 years and being as neutral as possible lead to being a stable country.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What a silly post...

First, where are you going to find a 8% treasury bond? Even a few months ago, when they were giving record yields, it didn't even get close to that.

Second, if you borrow $3m with high interest rates (needed to get high yield treasurys) you'll also pay a high rate on your loan. Duh.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure the post assumes you have $3m just sitting in your bank account.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Even then there's no investment with guaranteed 8% interest.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey if you don't have 3million stuck between your couch then that's your problem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I would simply inherit my father's couch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I didn't buy Twitter and saved over $40B now I don't have to work my entire life

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

The real LPT is in the comments once again

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is a person who doesn't understand how the fixed income market works.

He's assuming he's buying $3m notional of a bond yielding 8% and paying for the face value $3m (i.e., he's buying it at par). This is not how it works, even if you're somehow subscribing at issuance as a retail investor.

You're going to be buying the bond at bid, which is going to be higher than par when prevailing future yield expectations are lower than the coupon rate of the bond.

TL,DR: You can't buy $3m of a high-yielding sovereign bond for $3m today. You'll get less of the bond for the money if it's yielding more than the market is expecting base rates to be in the future.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Show me where I can get a bond at 8%.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes and good luck finding a 8% treasury (and please let me know if you do) 😆

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (17 children)

The DOW grew 25% over the last year.

The S&P grew 30%

The NASDAQ grew 35%

What are you doing buying 8% Treasury Bonds?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is such bullshit advice. Instead of doing this, we could invest that money in a 16% bond and make 40k a year. Simple hack they don’t you to know.

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