Steam Deck

Fuck Nintendo. All they have done is ensure I never buy one of their products again.

I will always say this in these "Nintendo shuts down beloved fan project" threads: why don't the people working on these projects operate anonymously and release via torrent? I feel like I've been reading the same story for 20 years. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone at this point that Nintendo will come after you.

There were so many Nintendo apologists when Yuzu was taken down because "Yuzu used actual nintendo source code, so that's why they were taken down, it won't happen to Ryujinx." Yet here we are. Nintendo is by far the shittiest company when it comes to protecting their IP, because it's all they have. Turns out, Mario is a fucking bootlicker

fuck Nintendo and fuck fanboys who defend them at every turn. breath of the wild was a 7/10 game

'offered an agreement'

So bribed them?

As with Yuzu, I won't be buying any more switch games. I'll still be playing switch games, and so will my friends, but we won't my buying them.

Honestly, I've lived watching emulators for decades. They can come and go and there's always more, even ones that aren't forks. Just today I was reminiscing on my first emulators, zsnes, no$gmb and nesticle. Y'all remember the peaceful zsnes snowfall? Good times.

People think emulator protections in the law are stronger than they really are. Sony vs Connectix made emulation legal, but it wasn't heard by the supreme court. PS1 games weren't encrypted and relied on other methods like disc wobble to prevent piracy...so without proactively violating any measures you could just not include that check in your competing emulator and play retail discs without breaking any laws.

In steps the DMCA anti-circumvention laws for bypassing video game / console encryption measures, which is an even bigger untested minefield without precedent in favor of emulation. And since games are default encrypted on new consoles and arguably not subject to exemption (at least while still supported) it really might be a disaster to fight it.

Nintendo is a dick but it's not in our interest or theirs to really push the boundary on the status quo. The get to slap suit whatever they want taken down, we get to play the emulation hydra game where it's still legally grey.

I'm a bit salty this was apparently announced through Discord. Was it even posted anywhere else?

The future of social media is fragmented siloes, I guess.

Obligatory fuck Nintendo, but I also blame the selfish dumbfucks who keep posting videos of themselves playing unreleased games on YouTube and Reddit. If you want nice things contingent on having software which exists in a legal gray area, don't openly poke the litigious hornets' nest.

I own a Nintendo, and I haven't used it in years. I bought some games which were ridiculously priced compared to what I was used to on steam. I'm rather annoyed they keep their games console exclusive for this reason, they have like a monopoly of a market they control, it feels.

I was gonna get some more games to put on it, but with then shutting down these emulators, I think I'll use one of those instead. Fuck Nintendo.

I need to remind some people here who don't seem to understand something.

Forks may be dead and development may not be as fast as the original.

However - you must think about the future and not the situation right now. Yuzu and Ryujinx sources will be invaluable information for people making emulators later down the line.

It's a matter of when and not if someone picks it up again.

Yeah, this is dumb.

I own original hardware and buy 100% of my games but sometimes you just wanna run games that aren't originally crossplatform on your Steamdeck for convenience, or on a PC with resolution upscaling, or for ease of streaming the gameplay, or tons of other legitimate reasons.

Nintendo has some great IP and gameplay, and I guarantee you their sales are not meaningfully hurt by people who pirate/emulate games. Those people were never their customers anyway. If anything the emulation community enabled streamers to boost the popularity of their games. (People like PointCrow did more for the sustained popularity of BOTW than all of Nintendo's marketing efforts combined)

I know it's not happening, but I'd love it if Nintendo went the way of Sega, and just made games. They've always been hit and miss with their consoles anyway, it's the games people love. Just fuck it, start releasing games for multiple platforms and focus on what you're actually fucking good. Pipe dream, I know

What do they think they achieve with this?

And then nobody ever made another emulator for Nintendo products again and this definitely does not foreshadow an endless game of whack-a-mole powered by spite.

Surely not.

Now and then I bought Nintendo games for my nephew. This stopped right now.

Go to hell Nintendo. I will never buy anything from them again and I will advise gamers I know to do the same.

Is there still an alternative left for the switch?

Imagine not developing a controversial emulator anonymously...

I think anyone still in the scene will want to lay low for a while and work in the shadows. Only releasing after a few years.

I hope they dont go for dolphin or cemu claiming that certain games are in their e-shop for the switch 2 release.

Either way I think we should start backing up emulators and their source and require files regularly as a fallback.