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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Lemmygrad: claims to be anti-imperialist Also Lemmygrad: supports Russian invasion of Ukraine

Hmmmmm...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tankies really do love imperialism. You'll find they're hypocrites of absolutely every view they hate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

They are just totally irrational honestly. There is no logic to it and it seems to generally be a love for China and Russia and a hate for the west.

My guess is that it is the bleed over from years of propaganda. Think about it, in the USSR schools students were fed a lot of propaganda just like in the US.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Ah, infighting and communists go together like bread and butter. Minus the bread and the butter.

Reminds me of a bit from Disco Elysium, where after you call yourself a communist, you're called a liberal by a different communist for not being communist enough.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Real answer, though. Lemmygrad hates trans because they think being trans makes you a part of the bourgeoisie; see Nutomic's rant here. And Hexbear is filled with trans. So those from Lemmygrad usually dog whistle (in this example, it's exclusively showing support to transphobic youtubers) about how much they hate trans, and Hexbear reluctantly goes along with it like an abused spouse because they can't leave Lemmy now.

Means more entertainment for us! continue on, tankies, maybe after you're done arguing about youtubers you can truly revolutionise the world!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

In communist Russia, you don't get bread and butter

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Please don't reply to me again

If I have to think about my cognitive dissonance one more time I might have to critique my belief system and then hexbear will disown me

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's funny to see this people believing the're the most educated and eloquent people on the planet, while they're basically Proud Boys playing as leftys.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

You don't understand. The USSR did more to stop climate change than any other country in history.

  • Tankie, probably
[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Lol I can't with these kids.

https://redsails.org/another-view-of-tiananmen/#fn24

This is what they post if you ask too much about Tiananmen Square.

It cracks me up. It'll cherry pick a quote like "I saw no slaying in Tiananmen Square" from a western journalist but neglect the whole quote which talks of how the government wouldn't let them in the square to see it but they saw the killings throughout the rest of the city and knew of them across the country side too.

Hilarious

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

You’re even allowed to say anything about it? I figured they’d just block and ban for merely mentioning it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah I genuinely don't understand what they think the point is. Congratulations, the massacre happened in side streets and at home, just like they do it in America and Europe after the riot pigs tear gas the main crowd.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Tankie is when acknowledging Tianamen and saying all states are violently corrupt

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I wished that all these fucking cunts would move their asses to Russia and get turned to goop.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

or vietnam or cuba, both actual fully communist states that will be very happy to accept some western comrades.

Seriously if I was an actual communist, I'd migrate to these countries immediately and start helping out the cause, both are very lovely places.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Vietnam is too capitalist (seriously - despite their official ideological alignment, they're one of the most pro-free-market countries in the world) and too anti-China, while in Cuba they would have to actually deal with the fact that rampant government mismanagement by their unchecked anti-democratic ideology has created an economic crisis. And God forbid they experience hardship.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It would actually be a great economic learning experience for MLs to visit VN. Tons of cottage industry and relatively free trade, very little regulation on construction and rental so things are generally inexpensive. I got the impression that despite still being nominally Communist and very definitely a single party state with issues around free expression, the government doesn't mess with things that are working following market liberalization.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Well the Tankies love China so maybe Vietnam is the proper home

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I love watching those smug clowns rattle off on one another with their pseudo intellectual bullshit. They all have to know they are talking out of their asses, but they pretend that no one else notices it but just them….

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

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I can not wrap my head around there belief system. I guess it just involves putting your head in the sand

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Their belief system is very simple

US bad

Does something hate the US?

Then they're good!

Hamas? Which will slaughter these rich, gay, college kids? They're good.

Russia? Which imprisons gays and is extremely corrupt? Sounds good to me.

China? Which again, hates gays and is very racist? They're the good guys!

[–] parpol 1 points 2 months ago

Are people still federated with those instances?