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Yeah no guys this is a modern food nutrition thing. Paired with -I would say- a rather mild jab at how American education has a bit of a nonsensical ‘Stalin bad’ attitude towards educating its population about the history and impact of the USSR.

Gj 👍

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

CIA was formed in 1947

Stalin’s reign ended in 1953

The Soviet Union fell in 1991

Given the text has no date of reference it could be referring to any year between 47 and 91 and I’m doubtful the cia was producing caloric comparisons during the very first years of it’s inception, so I’m also doubtful it refers to the Stalin years.

Given the above I thought I’ll check the date of the source document.

What do you know? The text is from a document dated 1983.

The meme is shit.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure you’re just being deliberately obtuse. The CIA was definitely going to be talking about the Soviet Union not under Stalin. That was most of the Soviet Union, even.

Idk where you’re coming off that a hit against American history classes is unwarranted. US grade school education about the USSR takes a snapshot of the 1930s and then it’s the fall of the Berlin Wall.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Straw is terrible for defence but it might do for misdirection. Not in this instance though. That was pretty bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago

If the ussr wa so fucking great then move to russia. You’ll love it even more.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The millions of Ukrainians who starved during the Holodomor would beg to differ. Also, when exactly are they talking about? The USSR was around for 70~ years, that's a long time for them to improve things

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That does kind of point out that the ending of the famine cycles in the modern world wasn't a capitalism vs socialism split or even centralization, it was technological innovation and industrialization itself.

The greatest famines of the mid to late 20th century were genocides, not crop failures, and hunger and lack on a daily basis in the 21st is a social choice.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

God not tankie shit on .world. Here's this really cool idea: you don't need to look up to Stalin to be critical of the US. You don't need to support any superpowers actually... No one is making you

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah. But I think it’s important to understand both, much in the same way that the American government and capitalism lead to both the modern age of plenty and the dust bowl.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yay, more tankie shit =/

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These folks don't understand that compairing Stalin's policies to US policies is not the flex they think it is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

Stalin was long dead in the 1980s, when this number is from.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Another commenter posted that it is from 1983.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

3520 calories

I'm a postal worker that used to bike 150 miles a pop and trained for a 50k and thought it was absolutely bonkers for me to be eating 4000 calories a day on the basis that the generic recommended value was 2000 so I guess I stand corrected

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

2000 calories is based on an hour of strenuous exercise a day, and it's a broad generalization even then.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

it was commonly held at the time that we needed more grain. since then we have come to understand that is not true.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Basic food in America is stuffed full of sugar and high fructose corn syrup. Their "bread" is often as sweet as cake batter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

That's quite a bit of exaggeration. Here's a link to an American grocery chain if you actually want to compare. https://www.meijer.com/shopping/search.html?text=bread

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Their "bread" is often as sweet as cake batter.

No, it doesn't. Most of the mass produced stuff does have sugar and really shouldn't, but it doesn't come anywhere near tasting like cake batter.