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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I live in Amsterdam and can confirm this is a real problem. Lots of assholes with small dicks who pimp their cars or motorcycles to be loud as fuck. I applaud this measure

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah I wished they would do this in my city. Everyone complaining about privacy has clearly never had to put up with these assholes.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Otherwise known as microphones?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (31 children)

Cameras with microphones. Once a loud vehicle is detected the license plate has to be photographed.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Many of them in a grid.

One microphone would be like having 1 ear. If you’ve ever known someone who is deaf in 1 ear, they have trouble locating the direction sounds come from. IIRC, the implementation involves something like ~50β€”100 or so microphones. If you have a lot of noise entering your house you can point the thing towards a window and it will generate a heat map image showing red color where the noise is the highest.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good. Sick of the noise. Now figure out how to deal with the illegal ebikes and scooters riding like dickheads using bike paths at well above 25kmph.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

A couple hundred meters away from me, there's a piece of a two-lane two-lane road that has no traffic lights for a little over 1 km and has the priority of way, too - meaning that at night, you can get a somewhat high speed over there for a little while without leaving the city limits.

There's only a few bikers in my city, but holy shit do they make "good" use of the opportunity in summer. I really wish we also had this kind of cameras out there, because the noise from just one is insane, especially at dead of night, and sometimes they do this in packs.

The best part is that it never lasts once - they just speed between the two traffic lights for a while, making a shit ton of that noise.

There are also buildings with windows overlooking that same road from a much closer distance than mine. Can't really imagine what it's like for people living there, even though we're basically meters away from each other.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Great to see! I really hope more cities will follow suit to deal with this problem as well.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wish we had that here. I could only afford a home on a busy street and the pollution is bad enough we it is without the modded trucks, muscle cars and motorcycle racing by at 1am. It's illegal, but uninforced.

And that crying about being spied on... we already have cameras everywhere, actually having them used for something we want would be lovely. This and carpool lane enforcement, regulated in a way that can't be abused (unlike red light and stop sign cameras, which local governments really abuse given lack of top down regulation).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hear that the UK is trialling them in England an Wales, and London also had a trial run in 2021/22. Not sure what came of it, though.
Trouble is, the UK has no law limiting the noise a car can make. Only if there is e.g. a modified exhaust can the police even do something.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is not true. See rule 123 of the Highway Code which says it is illegal to modify your vehicle to make more noise and that the noise of a vehicle should be below 86 db.

οΏΌThe current issue is that enforcement is not proactive and the fines are very low. Most police departments only issue a warning for first time offenders.

See: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/805940/roadside-vehicle-noise-measurement-phase-1-study-report-and-technology-recommendations.pdf

For an extensive review.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is unfortunate that some countries are using cameras, microphones and others to control the behaviour of people. I agree that it is a required measure - as some people do not change their behaviours out of good will - but it is definitely not ideal.

Hopefully, in some years it will no longer be necessary, as people will have those good behaviours deeply rooted.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

You forgot that there will always be young men succumbing to testosterone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe next they can introduce these in Sweden, to deal with the eurodanceraggare and loud-tailpipe dickheads that plague the roads.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

This seems to be a problem everywhere in the world where young drivers can afford shitty cars.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Great news!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I'd like one of those for the park across the street where alcoholics congregate each night and yell at each other until 3AM.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I agree that it is sad that we have to come to that, but if good procedures are in place to make sure that the cameras and microphones are used for only this purpose, this can really help to have a better living environment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ngl would community self-reporting be better? I don't even know how to report traffic violations etc. in the US. Do they also need proof in order to do something about it? I wonder if being able to record and send video to the police of loud vehicles would be better. Or perhaps that could turn out worse?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

If a motorcycle is zooming at Mach 3 in a general vicinity of your house it's pretty hard to report due to practical issues like getting shoes on, getting to your Mach 4 capable vehicle, locating the offender and catching up with him to get his plates.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I wish my city was implementing just half of the measures Amsterdam is doing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Please sell these cheaply to consumers. I would really love to have one that photographs the plates extremely high pitch 50cc scooters on my street. I would pay $€£ 1000 for the ability to launch rotten eggs when someone uses the horn at 2am.

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