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[–] [email protected] 94 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's been too long without an ammendment.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Congress votes on party lines and there hasn’t been a 2/3 supermajority since 1977.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/95th_United_States_Congress

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Sadly, we can't count on cooperation in government.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Or reason. Only loyalty.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Every once in a while, a great tragedy strikes and our government comes together across party lines. Either the polarization is getting stronger or the information cycles are getting faster, because that time is just getting shorter and shorter. 9/11 unified our government for a couple years. Then COVID brought unity for a few months. Then Trump tried to overthrow Congress and hang Mile Pence on January 6, and the government was unified against him for a few days.

You had Republicans like Mitch McConnell giving a speech calling for unity and preventing "drifting apart into two separate tribes with a separate set of facts and separate realities." He later went on to say there was no question Trump was practically and morally responsible for the events of the day, but at that point the cooperation was already fading, as he voted not guilty in Trump's 2nd impeachment. He's since endorsed Trump for president.

I guess my point is, if you ever want to pass an amendment in today's political environment, it's gotta happen after something shocking happens - and even then you've got a few days to get it done at the most.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Congress votes on party lines

Hey now. I bet you we could get some kind of bipartisan amendment through if it pertained to selling arms to Israel.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I know fully grown adults who think the constitution has never been altered, the ammendments were always there and "just what the founding fathers worked on after signing it and sending it to king George", and that any talk about congress changing things after the fact is just 'liberal propaganda" and at least one person, when asked why they think that, responded with "well I've never seen an Ammendment happen in my lifetime so obviously it doesn't happen."

Several of these adults are related, so I can see why multiple people in the same family might hold that belief, but the fact that I know MORE THAN ONE is insane to me.

I went to school in a non-religious school that was very much a religious area. Sex Ed was basically the scene in Mean Girls "If you have Sex you WILL GET PREGNANT and DIE"

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (2 children)

well I've never seen an Ammendment happen in my lifetime so obviously it doesn't happen

The 27th Amendment was ratified in 1992

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

1992 was 32 years ago. Adults are 18. People born in 2006 are adults.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

You shut your damn mouth right now!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Fun fact: More amendments went into place in the 1900s (12) than any other century (1700s: 11, 1800s: 4, 2000s: 0)

I'm surprised those people don't at least know about Prohibition if they're the types to throw around "liberal propaganda"

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It needs to be called out just how weird it is that US Senators like this don’t understand the very document they have sworn to uphold.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (7 children)

The bar has been lowered so much that I wouldn't be surpised to learn that some of them couldn't even read.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At this point I'm almost for requiring at least some sort of legal degree for these positions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

a LOT of the people most important to governing within the constitution, enforcing it, and specifically hired to protect your rights granted by it, know little, to nothing, about it

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We are trying our best to vote this bitch out here in TN.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Marsha Goddamned Motherfucking Blackburn.

Stopped us expanding Medicare. In the pocket of the telecom companies. And all around, general, piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago

But I know also that laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed, and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also, and keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy, as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.

-Some stupid idiot who never read the Constitution, probably

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Funny how the people who scream "you can't change the second amendment" seem to be perfectly OK with nationalizing Christianity...which would violate the first amendment

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I've already read their mental gymnastics how America is a Christian country because blah blah blah. They specifically say that treaty that says it's not is a treaty and not part of the US something or other.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

What's really fun is that for a big chunk of them, the first three Presidents (at minimum) were not Christian by the definition a lot of them prefer. Washington was a deist. Adams and Jefferson both explicitly rejected the Trinity, which a lot of them hold as being central to the definition of Christianity. Also, Jefferson made his own bible translation that took out the parts he didn't like, and he wasn't coy about saying so.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You mean the US constitution wasn’t written by god and handed down by Jesus?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's not Jesus. He's not brown enough.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (9 children)

We're going for American Jesus.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You mean supply side Jesus

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Needs more guns and pickup trucks.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

Gotta get rid of that 2nd Amendment then as well don't we?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You'd also not be able to own guns, or have freedom or religion or speech. Look up the meaning of Amendment why don't you.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Eh, a rewrite is not the same as an edit.

If I start talking about rewriting our code base, I'm not asking to fix a big or add a new feature, I'm saying we need to scrap everything we've got and start again.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

According to the math he laid out in that document, it would be a longer period today to account for the increased life expectancy. At the time, it was only assumed that the average life expectancy was 55 years. Google says it is now about 78, so the suggestion for today's world would be to rewrite the Constitution every 31 years or so.

It makes sense. His logic is essentially that the Constitution is a contract that binds everyone in our society to a legal framework, but the rules were created for a specific time and people and binding future generations to the same rules would be the same as having a dead man continue to own all the property he aqcuired in life instead of having the ownership pass down to his descendants.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Literal Article V denialism. Almost like she's never read the document before.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (10 children)

you can point out their hypocrisy, it doesn't matter. you can make fun of them all you want, it doesn't matter. you can debate their ideas, it doesn't matter.

if you want to save the world, there's really only one solution.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Save the cheerleader?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (9 children)

I agree and disagree with that. If you don't point it out and tell them (and others) that they're wrong, then they go on doing it with zero pushback and it eventually becomes the truth.

I completely understand what you're saying, and it's exhausting they just continue to shout over everyone, but nothing changes if no one does anything.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Marsha Blackburn opposes the 2nd amendment.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Waiting for the chmod joke

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
congress@US:/govdocs/$ chmod 754 US_Constitution

justices@US:/govdocs$ sudo  chown justices:usg US_Constitution

justices@US:/govdocs$ chmod 744 US_Constitution
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

justices forgot the rules of sudo

We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local Systems Administrator. It usually boils down to these two things:
#1) Respect the privacy of others. #2) Think before you type.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (6 children)

There is a person here on Lemmy that seriously believes if you turn the constitution upside down it magically turns into Latin and has secret messages.

So, yeah. Unfortunately I'm not surprised with this lady.

[–] refalo 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

next you're going to tell me there's a hidden treasure map on the back of it

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Well…. Some US senator needs education it seems

Here.. I found something for their level: https://youtu.be/pSANTRnEBgg?si=qlSiKX79B01oJMSr

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