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[–] [email protected] 101 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (19 children)

I don't understand why these people who pretend to be supreme leftists are putting alt-right dogwhistles in the Democratic candidate's name. I guess you can just call everyone you don't like a Nazi when everyone who disagrees in your echo chamber gets banned.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago

I mean, they're in there praising nations that are state capitalist and producing hundreds of billionaires, so it clearly isn't the leftist economy part that they like.

They want Donald to win so that China and Russia can gain more global influence. I guess they are bad at propaganda and just forwarding what their MAGA allies invent or something. Makes sense, they all have the same goals this election.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Hexbear is legitimately filled with right wing trolls pretending to be leftists.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I'm not unconvinced that the whole leftist presence on that federated side of Lemmy is a psyop.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My bet is on troll factory workers slinging ideas around to see what and who sticks, and then they continue to sling ideas with their growing group. That was what the early days strategy of The_Donald on reddit were.

It doesn't matter that lemmy is relatively unimportant, what matters to them is having a testbed for what is and isn't sticking along with growing a crowd of supporters they might be able to take elsewhere where it matters.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It takes a lot of personal discontinuity to say that either the KKK or the SS would be voting for a black woman.

And yes, personal discontinuity is meant to be a nice way to say: you dumb.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

these people remind me of 4chan. idk if they're trolling, and there's definitely a chance that they're not. also yeah most seem like idiots or sadly really brainwashed

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Abortion is on the ballot in ten states that isn't good for Republicans at all. Expect to see way more trolls talking about how they are suddenly voting for the green party despite there being an actual socialist candidate to vote for. Republicans are desperate and know they're in for big losses if they can't pull something out.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Wait... Who is the socialist candidate?

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Looks like rage bait/ trolling to me.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The thing is that it is on their own internal instance from which most other instances have defederated, so the audience they are trolling are mainly themselves. That kinda debunks the "they are only trolling/baiting" claims in my view.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

These are just fascist nerds cosplaying as commies. Not a genuine Communist in the bunch

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (12 children)

What I find funny is that they idolise China as some form of left wing communist utopia. When in reality it's a very conservative and hyper capitalistic society, just with tonnes of authoritarianism and government control.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Florida has seen a huge increase of Republicans moving here from states where they were the underdogs. I expect a much wider margin in red favor this year. I would expect the compliment is true, that their states will have a wider blue margin. That is as long as they aren't committing voter fraud in one or the other state.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

That is as long as they aren't committing voter fraud in one or the other state

I hope you realized it as you were typing it

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Never understood the "throw your vote away" thing. Only one person will win. Almost 50% of people will not vote for them in any given election. Did they "throw their vote away" by not voting for the winner? That's just what voting is.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

In the US, the statement only truly applies when voting for a 3rd party, due to how our absolutely fucked FPTP + gerrymandered + electoral college system works, which additionally gives rural (predominantly conservative) areas disproportionately more electoral power. The bar is very literally higher for liberal (in the American sense of the term, not the European/global sense) presidential candidates. So if you vote green or socialist or whatever, you are absolutely voting against your ostensible interests in a statistically-provable sense.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Totally agree. It's like saying scoring a goal was a waste when your team still lost. Just score the damn goal and move on.

IMO people often attach way too much meaning to what a vote even is. It doesn't mean that you are swearing fealty to or even agree with them, it literally just means you think that person is better for the seat. I vote in every single election for every single race, it's just not even a consideration that someone wouldn't live up to my moral code on every issue because that's not what a vote even means to me. Vote early and vote often, and stop letting candidates define you.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

seriously kkk! i cant even.

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