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Josh Shapiro tried to celebrate law allowing convenience store sales of canned boozy drinks but left empty-handed

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

Good on them for following the letter of the law, lol. The system is working as intended in this case.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good. The rules apply to everyone equally and that starts by taking nothing for granted, ask for the rules to be followed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He is 51. I haven't been carded in a decade and I am in my later 30s.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Well hopefully you have it when they ask randomly some time. I was carded the first time in almost a decade, was a surprise but gotta be ready for it when you purchase age restricted products. If anything someone as a governer should be happy people are checking, as annoying as it is, since the rules are (supposed to be) for all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I went to high school with a guy who started balding in junior high and had worry lines and a resting sour face. It aged him enough that he bought us Popov a few times, probably because he looked exactly like the kind of person who would buy cheap vodka. He understood his superpower and helped those in need.

But asking for a card just once would have stopped it all. Evenly distributed law enforcement, even empty procedural moves like checking ID, is what justice looks like. We are all in this together.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I agree, my comment wasn't meant to be taken that it was a good thing. I don't even look that old for my age. The first time I didn't get carded I was 21 and wearing a suit from a funeral... then it was like another 5 years until I didn't get carded again.

Enforcement obviously needs to be improved.

I always thought it was crazy when I worked at pharmacy how I would have to sell cigarettes to someone that was of age, even if I just literally saw a 14 year old hand them a $20 for the butt's right in the doorway. There should be something allowing for sales discretion and punishing companies that force sales.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So weird to imagine being carded when you're clearly over 25 years old. I haven't been carded in all my 3 years in the UK. Don't even carry ID unless I'm traveling.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If I'm not mistaken, a lot of retailers are required to scan ID for every sale. Their registers won't let them complete the transaction if they don't scan a valid ID.

That might also be some bullshit the checkout employee made up for the lady in front of me at the grocery store who got all bent out of shape when she had to go digging through her purse for her ID.

They don't need to card people who look old at bars and restaurants, though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In Pennsylvania, I believe liquor stores do have to scan ID for most purchases.

Bars don’t HAVE to scan. The age threshold is fairly arbitrary. That said, there are companies who do contract stings/spot checks at bars (contracted by the owner of the chain, usually) to make sure they’re carding everyone.

One of my friends lost a job because of said sting by an 35 year old employee (who definitely looked over 30) and a zero tolerance policy for failing said checks.

So it makes sense to me that the bar wouldn’t provide alcohol to anyone without ID. That’s how they were trained.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I worked wirh someone that got fired by a secret shopper they didn't card. They got their job back after appeal because the secret shopper that was 30ish looked like she was 50. The secret shopper was let go because they had an abnormally high audit failure due to how old she looked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Every sale? Wild what people will put up with.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Every sale with an age restricted item. You won't get carded for buying an orange.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thanks for the clarity. Never been there, wasn't sure

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

To be more specific only some places do this and it's a software feature of the POS system. Lots of places only ask for id if you look young.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

In Minnesota (and the rest of the US AFAIK) you have to look over 40.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Remember Pennsylvania is a really weird about alcohol, the only store that used to sell had to be government run which requires scanning of id's and other than that you could buy beer and wine at restaurants so in that state they are hard wired to need ID. The rest of the country probably wouldn't care, I know my state just either doesn't ask or just asks you to tell them your birthday.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I experienced this a few times as a foreigner in Philly. Getting denied entry to a beer garden because I didn't have my passport (I'm mid 30s so clearly not under their alcohol age), or my colleague being randomly carded at a baseball game to buy a beer, none of us got carded and he did and his only id was his EU drivers licence, and he was mid 40s. It's so bizarre.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

They did their job preoperly.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago

What a loser. Fuck Josh Shapiro but also better than the other option, still fuckin loser