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People over profits is the real magic of fedi

We're building the future ✨

No shareholders. Just people.

Yeah, we'll probably see monetization and corporate interests join the fedi, and that's okay because the power of the protocol lies in choice

And the best fediverse platforms are open source and mostly good stewards of AP interop

Y'all made this happen, us devs can only take so much credit ❤️

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@[email protected] As long as the kind if monetization ain't morally apprehensible it's actually kind of a good thing. Running instances is hella pricy at some point after all.

I just fear the time when big companies start to aggressively join incl. their whole marketing lying schemes and exploitative behaviour…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@[email protected] I agree, I think its a good thing for users to be able to support their admins financially, and I am looking into that for Pixelfed.

It may require some paperwork, and stuff, but if I could make it easy for admins to get a portion of in-app purchases and facilitate direct donations to admins, I think that would help with the burden of costs associated with running an instance!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] I recently read about the idea of "patron posts", i.e. giving people the option to set their profile up so people with invested interest in your work/art can subscribe to individual accounts.
This would both attract artists and entertainers (won't use "content creator", imho it's a derogative term), but could also finance the very instance they use if there's f.e. a 1% cut on every transaction.

Would be hell of an implementation nightmare to properly work with the "change instance"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected]

Threads & Bluesky hope to subsume the fediverse so exercise caution with "big, pushy neighbors trying to take over your front yard", as the saying goes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] try and explain this to the Oligarch Press and they just don't want to understand. Unless it's about Coin it's irrelevant to them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] of course, monetization will (and probably should) happen. For me, it is important that it not the platform itself is the rent extractor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] which platforms besides #mastodon are part of #fediverse ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@[email protected] the natural state of the web and other technologies is federated. Think DNS, Web, Mobile, Email and now social media.

Monetisation is not a dirty word because creators, developers, admins etc need to keep the servers on and the apps developing but profit maximisation above all else just for shareholders is not the goal of the fediverse.

Money is another industry that needs federation. e.g bitcoin micropayments called SATs sent P2P over the lightning network is the future.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] the ledger is decentralised. The wallet payments are peer to peer. The wallet providers are centralised bu there are many.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] Remember that defederation harms decentralization and should be used as a last resort for instances that knowingly platform illegal content, have been notified about that content and do nothing about it. No moderation is perfect, but the highest priority for content moderation should be deleting illegal content and reporting it to the police, not policing naughty opinions and hurt feelings. When big tech knowingly focuses more on policing so called hate speech than protecting the millions of children that use their platforms, we all know where their priority lies. The fediverse can do better, and for the most part it is doing better. If Gab, Gettr, Truth Social, Minds, Threads and other corporate platforms want to connect, let them, let mastodon users hear what corporate fediverse users have to say, but just because you are a corporation doesn't mean you get a free pass to to be monopolize. The open protocol must remain open, but if we are to respect their rules than they must respect ours. That means that they do not get to complain about the otherwise lawful content we platform, nor do they get to complain about the fact that challenging corporate power is allowed on mastodon. Openness goes both ways and corporate platforms need to respect that, and we should respect that too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] I still like the idea that FLOSS developers and FLOSS creators can make a living from their work and passion. There are ways, I guess. We at #RKWard @[email protected] work on software because we like to do this, just like you. Keep up the good work and the spirit!