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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's almost as if racism is inherently illogical.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

It's almost as if people from the 60's needed an absolutely ridiculous metaphor to drive home how illogical racism is. Reminds me of the Hutu vs Tutsi scene from Hotel Rwanda.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Kirk is applying common sense to an allegory made to illustrate a point. Bad writer. No cookie.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The mirror is also an allegory.

Whether righteous or unwarranted, hate is hate. And acting in hate is just that, acting in hate, no matter your reason.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The mirror is also an allegory.

You can't mix allegories. It's like crossing proton pack streams.

Whether righteous or unwarranted, hate is hate. And acting in hate is just that, acting in hate, no matter your reason.

I know. I WATCHED THE EPISODE.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

You had me with absurdist comparative logic, you should have stopped there.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

IDK, it's been a long time since I watched the episode but isn't that literally the point? That any amount of critical thinking makes their views make no sense?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Maybe I'm explaining myself badly. I agree with you, it's literally the point. But the characters aren't supposed to lampshade it. The viewer is meant to get it on their own.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

The thing is, they had to beat everyone over the head with it because that was the only way it was going to get past the executives. They didn't want controversial things on TV in the 60s.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I don't know... racists also hate what they see in the mirror

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Kirk does whatever the fuck he wants to do. It is up to the writers to justify his actions, not Kirk

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That one black crew member on the bridge listening to this conversation ...

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

Not anymore they dont, Jim.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Upon further reflection, the Cheronians became the only species known to the federation to commit self-genocide by mass suicide as a result of irreconcilable cognitive dissonance.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

♬ I'm starting with the man in the mirror

I'm asking him to change his face ♬

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Quite ironic - what about a black man changing to a white one made you think of MJ? :-P

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

After my kung fu fighting post, I just had music on my mind.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

And now you bring up Stevie Wonder, you are just on a roll today!:-D

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're from the mirror universe.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Imagine a whole universe of mirrors...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Wasn't that a Dr. Strange movie?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Have you never been to a county fair?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Imagine a universe where mirrors didn't exist in its' multiverse...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Maybe they hate mirrors too.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Maybe they do but wouldn't they still see that they had their right side black unlike those disgusting white side right side?

I don't look in the mirror and think I'm left handed

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe the discomfort of looking at the person on the other side of the mirror, with their hate, sadness, and confusion, is part of what fuels their hatred.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have they tried looking at the man in the mirror and asking him to change his ways?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Message not clear; some man in the mirror is now telling me to change my ways, and now they're angry and crying and it's making me uncomfortable and feel alone. The man in the mirror said the world would be a better place if I changed, but why can't they change? After all, they sure don't seem like a good person, you can see it in their face. Disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

The thing is you've got to get it right while you've got the time. That's why it's so hard.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Once upon a time they had mirrors. But with the rise of political extremism and divisiveness, they replaced all mirrors with camera-based digital displays so they could flip the image and see their true selves represented, not some distorted atrocity.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

It's like in the Rick and Morty show. Civil war because of different nipples. And it's not far from reality (e.g. pigmentation or small cultural differences).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So Roddy Piper was just TOS cosplaying

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Mirrors outside the mirror universe? It wouldn't be a mirror universe if mirrors existed elsewhere too