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The unofficial Lemmy movement to bring proportional representation to all levels government in Canada.

Voters deserve more choice and accountability from all politicians.

Le mouvement non officiel de Lemmy visant à amener la représentation proportionnelle à tous les niveaux de gouvernement au Canada.

Les électeurs méritent davantage de choix et de responsabilité de la part de tous les politiciens.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Is this really the case? Does the electoral system really affect tuition like this? Or is it just another case of correlation rather than causation?

Very curious correlation nonetheless. 👌

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Proportional Representation is more representative of the will of the people as it represents 95% of the vote. People deserve better than the two establishment parties.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Two established parties? Is this a comment on American politics?

But yes, I agree regarding proportional representation. Greetings from Sweden! ✌️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Canada often swings towards conservatives or liberals as coalitions do not happen often.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Causation can be neither proven nor disproven with so few data points, especially since there's a lot of other correlations going on. For example, the high tuition WTA countries are also mostly former parts of the British Empire, with Britain having a somewhat different history of higher education and democracy than continental Europe, who takes up all of the spots on the Free Tuition side. So the cause might just be inheriting s particular system from Britain.

But PR and free tuition is of course superior.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Causation can sometimes not be proven with all the data points (full population). Sometimes statistics are not enough to prove causation.

Anyways, I like your analysis!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

There is some counter example. France have free tuition and a very WTA election system. But this educational system has been kept thanks to the many struggle of workers through their Unions.

However I think this voting system may have some impact on other field, like the jail system; which is is awful. I mean no jail is not, but the state of France is regularly sanctioned because its break humain rights

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

PR doesn’t make sense for the US. First, you’d need a constitutional amendment to abolish the electoral college. Then, you’d have to pass another constitutional amendment to abolish the senate - and that requires consent of every state which is not going to happen.

Ranked choice is more viable than PR in the US

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

In other words, the constitution doesn't make sense for the US

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is such a dumb take. Proportional voting has already been happening in Nebraska and Maine for 30 and 50 years respectively: https://electoralvotemap.com/which-states-split-their-electoral-votes/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Ok, I’ll bite. I was talking about nationally. Yes, states can decide how their electors must vote. The elector, however, can break state law and their decision is final, even if they face charges back home.

There is no way the senate will ever be proportional. And yes, while individual states may implement it, the House of Representatives will never be proportional unless a constitutional amendment awards seats by population directly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

you’d need a constitutional amendment to abolish the electoral college

Don't threaten us with a good time :)