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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

An initially Russian company, which moved to Dubai, which is most popular by all sorts of right wing Russian propagandists and used by the Russian military. Chances are pretty good that it is controlled by Russia at this point.

If you want a better alternative try Signal or XMPP.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would be surprised if it's not.

russia tried to take control over it for a while, until

On 18 June 2020, the Russian government lifted its ban on Telegram after it agreed to "help with extremism investigations". https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/telegram-russia-ban-lift-messaging-app-encryption-download-a9573181.html

Which means they have access to all messages.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You speculate that. Don't pass it on like you have proof. Or share the proof.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's also the part where they cooperate with Russian authorities but not western authorities (which is why Pavel Durov was arrested), or how their half hidden end2end encryption mode used to have a mechanism to make it almost impossible to detect a Person in the Middle Attack until they got called out.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's probably not a whale.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I'm not saying I don't agree with the speculation. It's just some things get passed around as facts, but it's a conspiracy at most.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

The facts are:

  • russia spent a lot of effort trying to ban it
  • eventually they "convinced" durov to cooperate to fight terrorism and removed the ban
  • in russia fighting terrorism is applied to anything

Yes, I don't have evidence that the messages are accessed, only that the access is given and that all of that is happening in a country with a blatant disregard to law from the government.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

i think its a real and genuine concern honestly

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ahh, alright then; Never mind 😅

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Agreed.

But it could become one. Aside from private chats where e2ee is manually enabled, it's all on a server somewhere.