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MOSCOW, Aug 27 (Reuters) - Russia on Tuesday condemned a move by Ukraine to ban a Moscow-linked branch of the Orthodox Church, describing it as an attack on Christianity and a blow to freedom of religion.

^ Which is a load of BS. Ukrainians are still free to worship at the IOC. Fuck russian spies hiding behind religion for credibility.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

Russian PsyOps = Making people facepalm so hard they hurt themselves

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Well, if they're so vocal about it it must mean it's working.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

No one cares about what Russia says. You have to be insane to treat them seriously

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Jesov Christky

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, Kremlin urges 'Freedom of Religion' in the headline. Sure. Let's ignore those comedians for a while. Soon they'll find out Russian manly soldiers are perfect against civilians and not against other military forces. /s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

so what exactly was banned

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ukrainian lawmakers voted last week to ban the Russia-linked Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

right, but like, what does banning a church look like? are you expelling the clergy, or just arresting them if they practice? are you seizing property?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know. I'd imagine any registrations or licensing the government required would get revoked which would have direct and indirect consequences that prevents the church and its clergy from either practicing, preaching, owning property, etc... Those there on a work visa get sent back and so on.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know the specifics here but usually this means they are not allowed to practice anymore. If they had any sort of state exemptions or privileges they'd be gone as well of course. I don't think they can legally arrest them unless they circumvent the ban.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think they've banned Orthodox Christianity. Just the specific church that happens to be of that faith, because Russians are hypocrites who bend international laws as they see fit, and this specific church is connected somehow.

A large majority of Ukrainians are Orthodox, but they are divided between two main groups with similar names: the UOC and the Orthodox Church of Ukraine, which would not be affected by the legislation. Many Ukrainians continue to call the UOC the Ukrainian Orthodox Church - Moscow Patriarchate, as it was commonly known, despite its recent claims to independence.

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-parliament-legislative-ban-ukrainian-orthodox-church-539e0f3a6d657277aa4fa93b8ec53505

So there's still an Orthodox Church in Ukraine. The names are similar, but not the same. Sort of like the two Chinas. One calling itself the People's Republic of China, and one the Republic of China. The latter being more commonly known as Taiwan.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

It's almost that bad. You do not celebrate orthodox Christmas day on Jan 6th, no, you do on Dec 25th

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

You don't get to control a church via the state and then complain when another country says that church is controlled by your state and is a threat to national security, especially not when that another country tried to be nice about it for 2, 10, or 15 years depending on how you want to think of this conflict.