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USA's Control of Internet Speech (lemmy.ml)

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[+] parpol 78 points 3 months ago (4 children)

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

E2e is not yet illegal, is it for you?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not yet, but not for a lack of politicians trying. So far the european court has done its job and also some countries have stalled.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That would be the next law I‘ll brake on daily basis 😂 (smoking weed is the only one right now)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nothing wrong with that

Luckely legal where i live, since april first 🥹

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hey there german friend 😄 it is still illegal in switzerland but police is still way more chill in switzerland. I was in Freiburg at a Festival and on the way there police stopped is and my girlfriend had to undress completely because their doggo smelled our empty grinder.. I had the weed in my backpack sealed so doggo did not find that. My girlfriend asked what they would do if they find weed, the police answered, that they do not know what they would do.

Luckily at the festival, everything was as chill as in Switzerland, like they find the weed at the gate, let you keep it and let you in. Smoking there was no problem either.

One sad point is, that I did not find any ACID at the festival 😂 but I guess that is a me problem

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Happy to hear that they are chill, at that point it would make sense to legalize. Alteast having home growing and consumption being legal is something that is hard to argue against. I bet it is going to get much better for us in the future (hopium, i know)🤞

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

🙌🏻 I be so too 😇 I guess as soon as the boomer are overruled by the new generation, there is nothing stopping the legalisation 🥳

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think the Online Safety Act recently passed in the UK does technically make proper encryption illegal. Chat platforms are supposed to comply when UK law enforcement asks for logs, and it says something about them needing to be "readable".

This probably mainly just means they should be able to use the backdoors in major platforms. It would be very difficult for them to go after every obscure xmpp provider or whatever, and so far they haven't.

The law says lots of other dumb and quite dystopian stuff like policies every "social media platform" has to follow, which seem to really misunderstand how the internet works. The UK would need to block itself off from most of the internet for any of this to work. One of the main chat platforms I use is just a computer in some German tech enthusiast's house (I think).

Thankfully, Labour got into power in the recent election instead of Conservatives. Their candidate was often called a "Tory with a red tie" since he didn't believe in as serious left-wing policies as other, failed Labour candidates like Jeremy Corbyn. The point though is that hopefully they won't be dropping many more laws like the "Online Safety" ("Ahhh, protect the children because any website can have porn D:") Act.

Ofcom is supposedly in the stages of putting the law into practice though. I hope nothing extreme happens to the UK, but it all sounds pretty horrible to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yea, I wonder what they would do against my self hosted matrix server behind VPN and reverse proxy 🤔

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

don’t have backdoors

I've got bad news for you about hardware...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

From having lived in several European countries I get the impression that the Press being pretty much just partisan Propaganda generally it's not as common as it seems to in the USbe, with the notable exception of Britain (were it's pretty bad all around except the Private Eye which is actually a satirical magazine).

That said, the way for example Orban entrenched his control of Hungary was by controlling the Press.

This might be at least partly why in Europe the Far Right rose outside mainstream parties but in the US it rose inside them (and, curiously, in the UK it started outside, then was picked up by one of the mainstream parties at which point it really took off).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Even if it is made law, it still require legal determination by a competent authority. Such a law can simply be considered ultra vires, since it is not constitutional in a democracy.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wake up babe, new excuse just dropped: [enemy nation of the week] bots & trolls

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

They sell so much of this National Security wrapping paper, I'm surprised it never runs out. Remember when they wrapped the Iraq war with it?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

But muh freedom fries

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Don't forget anti-China

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Is that a thing?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's the whole impetus behind the TikTok ban

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Ah, yeah, that’s a fair criticism. Thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was hoping Everett True would show up and punch out both of them.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Just ignore the fact that the actual technological capacity to accomplish this is being steadily built and deployed behind the curtain while you argue over who gets to control who and how.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

For real though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Might be more accurate if they traded places.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Yarrr, let's make it both.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They need to add a third wrapper called "anti semitism"

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