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Pretty damning review.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I know these guys are too busy to do it but I would gladly pay a monthly fee for a podcast with Steve (GN), Steve (HUB), Wendell (L1) and Gordon (PCWorld).

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I watched a couple of Linus videos over the years and recently subscribed. I had no idea how many videos they push out a week - that is something they should really adress. Rather make three or four good videos a week than the absolute crap content they partially put out just to get their schedule full.

After this whole thing now I unsubscribed again. You can absolutely fuck up a situation and be good in my book if you own up to it, but Linus response is childish at best and a disaster at worse.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

LTT claims to be hitting the brakes and asking itself how to proceed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cTpTMl8kFY

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1691693740254228741

This came out around the same time that was likely being filmed.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Could someone ELI5 the problem and what's going on? (I don't have good enough internet to watch videos ATM)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It was really obvious to me Linus was full of shit when he pretended to give Linux a try but then defied a scary error message warning him not to continue which he did anyway and it wiped his desktop environment completely.

He then basically implied if you couldn't just randomly copy paste cli commands without understanding them AND ignoring a scary warning message, then Linux just was too sketchy for average users to use. It would be trivial to make that exact argument about windows... Because it's a bullshit meaningless argument

Anyone with even the tiniest experience with a cli, imo, should've known at that point he's full of shit. Fuck their shitty videos.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Yeah, it was the worst video about GNU/Linux I've ever seen. The whole idea was stupid from the beginning: let's be ignorant and try to use a new operating system we don't know anything about, spend 5 minutes on research and definitely don't ask anybody for help.

Linus's issue was caused by some new bug in Pop OS, but he ignored the warning message and even typed "DO AS I SAY"! But of course the conclusion had to be that GNU/Linux is not ready yet. I'm pretty sure he could have just downloaded Steam from their website instead.

The most annoying part was the response from the community. Instead of criticizing his ignorance and incompetence, people were praising him for finding a bug 🤦.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I watched this yesterday and even I was cringing for both of them because i like LTT but GN's points are valid, but also you can tell this was a very tough video for GN to make.

There's a certain tone or cadence to the way that Steve talks that really makes him sound like an authority on the subjects he's talking about. Like an old school radio reporter from the 30s or something. Not sure exactly how to describe it, but once you hear him say something, you know it's a very serious topic.

Either way, I think GN made some very valid points, but also some much less so. I mostly watch LTT for the entertainment value but I've never taken their reviews particularly seriously. I've always hated how LTT handles charts and data - they just zip through the data so bloody fast. At LTT it is clear that Linus knows his stuff, but it's also clear that he's not trained as a scientist or engineer in the scientific method. Listening to him, yiu can tell there's a lack of knowledge in the methodology of setting up an experiment, but on the other hand if you step back for a second, you realize how ridiculous some of the topics all these reviewers obsess over really are. 5 FPS in a game that's already getting 150+ is utterly pointless in the real world. These are just games, guys. It's not the end of the world here.

I'll continue to watch LTT, mostly for TechLinked and now GameLinked because Riley, James and now Jacok crack me up.

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