Something sus about how quickly they can unlock phones when it's attempted murderer killed dead and murder victims killed dead.
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Cracking a phone is pretty doable. Cracking phones in a way that will hold up in a court trial, much more formal.
look into celebrite
I think there's videos on youtube.
they can plug in most phones and have access to everything through an easy gui
I would definitely not call Cellebrite an "easy GUI" and they definitely don't get into most devices. Ive seen devices take months to unlock, if ever.
Cellebrite machines were used to copy contacts and messages and call logs from one phone to another, back in the day before Android and iPhone. There was little to no security on dumb phones back then... and you still needed the customer to put the PIN in and unlock their phone before using the Cellebrite. They came with a million different kinds of USB -> phone proprietary adapters, because mini and microUSB hadn't bee adopted yet as a standard.
Source: I used to do this sort of thing on a Cellebrite.
Most phones are locked with a four digit numerical PIN. The current technique is taking an image of the flash memory, and reflashing the memory after every few attempts.
It still takes a bit longer than straight brute force without a temporal lockout, but it’s still pretty trivial.
If it was biometric login, even easier. Would've gotten in before thebody even got cold.
15 years ago, yes, nowadays especially on iPhone this does not work at all
It does when you have physical access to the RAM and storage, and a disassembly lab expressly configured for this purpose.
This is the backbone for a number of forensic services offered to law enforcement, and an entire cottage industry. I know with certainty it was still feasible as of the iPhone 12, which is well inside of 15 years. I don’t believe the architecture in the 13 or 14 has changed significantly to make this impossible.
With slightly earlier phones, tethered jailbreaks are often good enough, though law enforcement would more likely outsource to a firm leveraging Cellebrite or Axiom as the first step.
How does this work with for example the Titan-M in pixels with graphene?
I believe newer iphones have something similar (?)
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If it used face unlock, just have the dead body and prop the eyes open and you’re in?
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Dude... my niece can unlock my phone while i sleep by putting my finger on the sensor.
I wouldn't be surprised if it would recognize my face while sleeping too
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I wonder if they stuck his thumb on there. He is dead after all.
I get the feeling I'm the only person who doesn't use fingerprint readers (due to this and just some bad experiences with them not working right in their earlier days on phones).
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Anyone know what kind of phone they reported they cracked? This should bring fear to anyone who cares even a little about privacy.
Otherwise, it will become normal to question why you take a shit with the door closed (what are you hiding in there?) slippery slopes and what-not.
There's devices sold to law enforcement that will allow them access to most phones by plugging them in. Believe it or not, Israel is the biggest exporter of exploits and hacks.
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It doesn’t matter. If a nation state is a wants access, they’re gaining access.
It’s probably an exploit from that Israeli cyber company that I forget the name of.
On the scale of privacy concerns, anything that starts with "they took physical possession of my device" ranks pretty low on my list.
Any (western designed) phone. It doesn't matter. All your data belongs to us. Them.
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Investigators couldn’t get in with 1234, so they shipped it to their lab to try 5678
Wonder if this was one of the latest flagships or something older
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Bro forgot to turn off his phone before they shot him.
If he had fingerprint unlock it would be pretty easy to get in considering they have access to his fingers. Facial recognition... less successful in this case.
Most phones actually require pin/password on boot, and only let you use fingerprint/face unlock to unlock later in the session, as a security feature. So if he turned his phone off, even that wouldn't work.
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I hate when that happens. Now they'll have to take it to one of those repair places.
Look, we have a bastardized version of right to self repair, so they should just give it back to the owner. He might have problems fixing it, but still.
Crooks, who left behind no immediately available manifesto or record of the attack, unlike many other modern assassination plots or mass shootings. He was registered as a Republican voter and donated $15 to a Democratic-allied organization but did not maintain a large online presence.
Well this is thoroughly unhelpful.
Someone with the same name made the donation. At this point, we do not know if it was the assassin who made the donation, or an 80 year old with the same name.
IIRC the donation had his address on it, they do in fact know it was him.
Or GrandPa Crooks.
In any case, I’m still trying to figure out how closely-related the organization was. “Democrat allied” or whatever could be almost anything.
The organization was ActBlue.
ActBlue Charities Inc. is an American political action committee and fundraising platform established for serving left-leaning and Democratic nonprofits and politicians.
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It literally has the address of his house on it.
He donated money when he was 17. It was $15.
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unless brute force was done, it might be a cold boot, usb exploit or bootloader exploit by physically accessing the storage.
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