this post was submitted on 14 Jul 2024

403 points (100.0% liked)

196

16501 readers

3545 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

403

Ruling for a job is hard (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

25 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Copying from my comment below for context:

Job openings like these are messing things up for creatives who specialize in one area.

Now everyone looks for video editors who do audio. No more jobs for sound guys.

If you do graphic design, you are now expected to do animation and web design as well. Some even want you to do social media and video.

People who post things like these only want to save a buck. Heck that's why they outsource the jobs in say the Philippines and India. They don't want to pay their local rates.

And some Asian folks like this too because the going rate is higher than local rate here.

But it's literally ruining the livelihood of people in other fields.

all 27 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I dont really get the joke

[–] [email protected] 149 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I think they're saying that each of those are different professions, which is why the job posting is made by a clown. That being said, there are 15 year olds with TikTok accounts who do all of these things, so it also sounds like someone who doesn't know what a Social Media Manager does and criticizing the job posting.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yep I really don’t think their asking that the person be a professional graphic designer and VFX producer.

Sounds like they want someone who can use imovie and canva.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They're probably looking for someone who can spell "they're" to fill their role there.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Oh come on you don’t need to downvote me for that. I’m not a professional on a computer, I’m a disabled bedridden person who is unable to use computers. Just let me exist please.

Nor am I a native english speaker :)

Edit: Lmao this guy went and downvoted every single one of my recent comments because of this.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, now I'm gonna downvote you ...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Vote manipulation always deserves downvotes if the mods don't take more appropriate action.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Nobody needs more mod action, especially on stuff like this. Perhaps on CP or bots, but not really here.

You want lemmy to turn into Reddit and have a super power mod max perma ban you because you didn't follow rule 54038 of the side bar, but actually it was because the mod didn't like you and was having a bad day ?

Me personally I'd prefer someone salty downvoting every post and lose meaningless internet points than having mods riding everyone, increasing the likelihood of runaway abusive mods. The perfect is the enemy of the good enough.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

You want lemmy to turn into Reddit and have a super power mod max perma ban you because you didn't follow rule 54038 of the side bar, but actually it was because the mod didn't like you and was having a bad day ?

Been there, and I hear ya

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Spoken like someone who truly does not understand that mods are also, in fact, people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

People with a responsibility

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

It's not that i disregard the fact that they're people. I simply believe people in positions of authority and executive action in society, wherever it may be, must be held to a higher standard of conduct and be audited by people other than their friends.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Ive done all of those things in my current job, and they are unrelated to my actual job description. None of them are particularly hard. Heck, I've installed servers, welded mounting brackets, soldered components, run cabling, designed letterheads, built and maintained VM production servers in AWS, written software, visited clients, delivered goods, done sound design, edited video, written company policy, managed DNS records, and kept all the office plants watered and healthy. Im a technical writer. Some jobs just do be like that.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Sounds like you worked for some fucking stupid companies. Do what you're hired to do, not be an entire IT department, custodian staff and administration. You are the only one losing in that situation.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Or maybe he's worked for some small companies where none of those is a full time job and hiring 27 people to sit around for 97% of their time is not likely to be considered a terribly good business decision.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They pay me heaps, my job is interesting, I get to learn tons of new skills on their dime, and I average about 4 hours of actual work a day.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Also what sort of company would give access to managing DNS and deploying ec2 instances to someone not in an operations role. Easiest way to run up your bills by introducing misconfigurations which can cost a lot if not rectified quickly.

I've seen load balancer routing traffic across AZs unnecessarily where a single checkbox was not clicked, costing $500/month until it was discovered. Also devs who think they need a cluster of c5.2xlarge instances for a simple webapp, where most of the requests were serving javascript files, and needed to be moved to s3/cloudfront.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Well, I'm not incompetent at my job like that so its not really a problem.

The company is only 12 people, not a multinational.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I have also been the IT guy in a tiny company

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it appears the guy works for an Asian satellite of a major advertising agency. Not an entirely unreasonable ask at small scale, but generally people are going to be really good at one item on that list, and sub-par on the rest.

I can use premiere, photoshop, illustrator and create pretty decent stuff, but I am nowhere near a pro.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Sure, but job openings like these are messing things up for creatives who specialize in one area.

Now everyone looks for video editors who do audio. No more jobs for sound guys.

If you do graphic design, you are now expected to do animation and web design as well. Some even want you to do social media and video.

People who post things like these only want to save a buck. Heck that's why they outsource the jobs in say the Philippines and India. They don't want to pay their local rates.

And some Asian folks like this too because the going rate is higher than local rate here.

But it's literally ruining the livelihood of people in other fields.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yea, replyer is most likely in advertising or marketing and where there is a job market for that, and is only seeing the world through their own eyes.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago

Let me guess, doing all that and paying minimum wage? I agree with Roman

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

is it just me or does "must have a creative mindset" just scream "let me exploit your work for the lowest buck possible and you'll be grateful for the exposure" lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

As long as they pay for the skills they ask for and its a doable workload, I don't see the issue. Its not as if they are asking for master degrees or to do it all in an unpaid internship.