I’d prefer NDP to either of the other two.
this post was submitted on 12 Jul 2024
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NDP for sure. I just wish Singh was able speak without feeling so hollow and empty. But, that said, they're the only party actively trying to improve Canadians lives.
Seasoned pollster Nik Nanos says he has never seen a political landscape quite like the one in Canada right now.
For months, the Conservatives have enjoyed a double-digit lead over the Liberals. Does that mean it is a slam dunk that Pierre Poilievre will be Canada’s next prime minister?
“Absolutely not,” Nanos says. “If Pierre Poilievre makes a mistake, his drop will be hard and fast. And that is true if anyone next to him makes a mistake. I think the Conservatives have to realize that it’s not that they’re winning, it’s that the Liberals are losing. It is not a validation of Conservative policy.”
As for the NDP, Nanos thinks that with their numbers dropping in every byelection since their deal to support the Liberals, the deal will soon come to a close. That’s because the party will need a “six-month cooling off period,” to establish their own identity before voters next head to the polls.
I'm inclined to agree. None of the parties are running anyone I remotely want to vote for, which is kind of insane.
Dump Trudeau at this point. I think he thinks he's falling on his sword, but he's dooming the party. The OLP lost party status, I honestly could see that kind of result happen to the LP. If rather another Ignatief or Stephan Dion placeholder who you wouldn't question as opposition leader than the party to get wiped out.
Dump Singh, have you ever seen a less inspiring leader? He's rich and doesn't connect with the blue collar workers that the NDP should lean on. The NDP should be able to put forward a worker first platform that attracts a lot of southern and northern Ontario, easy, and probably appeal to Quebecors and environmentalists. .
Dump Polloevre, or don't, I'm not Conservative anyways. But Otoole was at least palatable to this lowercase liberal. Polluevre is a human shit stain wholly say anything to anyone to win. I don't trust him, I don't like his politics, I don't like his policy. The Construction needs to stop yelling freedom and pretending their the Republicans, because it's not a healthy position here in Canada.
The amount of people transfixed by Poilievre’s common sense approach is disgusting.
Pierre never says what his policies actually are, he lets people fill in the blanks with whatever they want to believe and it might be enough to win an election.
Even after when people figure out they’ve been duped by him they might double down lie what’s happening in the US or was happening in the UK.
He is the personification of the Futurama business guy “don’t you worry about blank, let me worry about blank”
Here's hoping his boneitus catches up with him
I wonder if PeePee has boneitis
And then when he gets voted out some years later, blame the next party for all the fallout.
Rinse repeat.
Fucking preach.
Jack Layton's death set the NDP back decades. I don't despise Singh, but he's got the personality of a potato. PP is bat shit crazy, and a fucking snake. Trudeau is inept.
I'm pretty left leaning: I align with a lot of NDP principles, but dislike their approach and delivery, so I default to liberal.
It'd be nice to have some decent candidates, not this microcosm of the race to the bottom the US is having.
Yes, I miss Layton
I don't know why the NDP hasn't come out swinging with a platform of no tax increases for the middle class, we're going to bolster healthcare and take it off the hands of small businesses to turn it into a real benefit of doing business in Canada, and make it easier for small businesses to start up and compete, so your jobs aren't going away.
Give the average Joe job security, health security, and real opportunity, and then see how excited people can get.
The NDP has been absolutely abysmal at advertising their platform. Many view them as a rotted-out crutch of the Liberals and the NDP seems to be just fine with that. It blows my mind in this landscape where Canadians are basically just asking for a rational leader.
Glad I'm in Quebec and we have our own alternative
Federally? Sure.
Legault is only marginally better than Drug Fraud though.
We're currently talking about federal politics so yes
Conservatives were supposed to sweep up in France and UK and they both now have left wing parties in charge.
The landscape is pretty different, all the left wing parties formed an alliance and the "centrist" party agreed with them to remove candidates that would split the vote and they only did that for the second turn.
Over here that would involve the Liberals, NDP, Bloc and Greens doing the same thing but we don't have a second turn!
Fair points.
Right now, France doesn't.
Left wing parties made an alliance to defeat the RN but they didn't get the majority, and Macron is trying to find a way to designate a PM from the center
Nanos sees three possibilities to satisfy the appetite for change. Make Pierre Poilievre prime minister. Or retain Justin Trudeau with “new things in the window.” Or switch to a new Liberal leader who is a so-called “blue Liberal” — someone who would take the party back towards the centre, with a more fiscally conservative vision for the country.
What does a blue liberal look like these days?
I don't know. Isn't the colour of the liberal party red, but the current one pretty fucking blue already?
Trudeau's policies were actually a shift left, which is part of why the supply-and-confidence agreement is going so well - there's real overlap with the NDP now.
Moving back right either economically or socially seems tricky. Few voters are excited about reduced social spending, and moving right socially would really anger a lot of the Liberal base. If the change of direction was a stronger defense policy I guess I could get behind that.
The current Liberals are, economically, pretty blue.
"Blue" is just centrist code for "acceptably racist, sexist and homophobic"/
The current Liberals are economically blue compared to what? They're literally implementing NDP policies right now, and the Greens have one seat. Is this a communist thing? Nobody's voting communist.
Similarly, nobody except the right wing of the Conservative party thinks any of those three things are good. Disagreements from the center leftwards are just about how aggressively to beat down those old demons, and at what price.
“The polling reflects name recognition, not their political prospects,” Nanos said. “Almost anyone would be better than Trudeau.”
I wonder if Trudeau really gives a shit about the country, 'cause if he did he'd bow out of the next election.
I don't think there's enough time for the Liberals to seperate themselves from Trudeau at this point. If that was the direction they were going they should have done it a year ago.
Just like Biden would, in the US of A??
Ego's narcissism is .. difficult to resist, the evidence shows, for Grand Poobahs of countries..
Just like Brannigan's Law and Brannigan's Love