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I don't mean to be pessimistic, bit since most subreddits are only going dark for a couple days, the site will basically be back to normal soon. I wonder how many users here are only here because of temporary outrage and not because they actually prefer Lemmy. I'm curious about people's outlook on this situation.

/sEdit: Wow this blew up!

Edit 2: Thanks for the gold kind stranger!

Edit 3: RIP my inbox! I can't believe this made /r/all!

Edit 4: We did it ~~Reddit!~~ Lemmy!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I prefer to be bored on lemmy than annoyed with agressive pop ups, repetitive and irellevant ads and silenced whenever i express opinion that goes against the prevailing group think. If you prefer being herded into corrals on that other site, feel free to leave.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If I had to guess, I would think that a disappointingly large amount of people will go back to normal reddit use, even if nothing changes. People hate changing their routine.

I had barely heard of Lemmy before any of this started, and many others have similar stories about that. The servers yesterday however, were super busy. That leads me to believe that there may be a lot of lurkers in addition to the new accounts.

In the long run, I feel like many of us will start using Lemmy a lot more often. This kind of reminds me of the death of a few other social media platforms. Over time, I think this community may continue to grow, and could become what reddit once was to digg. This time though, there's federation on the platform.

If Lemmy plays their hand right, they could easily top reddit overall within a few years, especially if reddit keeps treating their mods and communities poorly.

At this point, it's about principle. I would have been less angry at reddit if they just came out and said they were removing 3rd party apps. Instead, we got a sh*tshow with false accusations, lies, and ignorance. I say ignorance, because a lot of people have been complaining about the official apps accessibly options, yet reddit does nothing to help them. Moderators have been complaining about how the official app makes it very difficult to moderate, yet reddit still did nothing. Somehow though, they're awesome at plugging in as many ads as possible, and they are brilliant at eating excessive amounts of data.

Even if reddit comes back, I think I'm gone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I agree, I do hope Lemmy strives tbh. When there is more content, there is more traction. Let’s just keep these discussions going and spread the word around. I talk to my coworkers during lunch break about the Reddit blackout and told them about Lemmy (but I usually start the conversation with β€œdo you use Reddit”)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I actually want certain subreddits to go live again precisely because I can link users to Lemmy. Right now there are many communities whose members are feeling lost without Reddit - not because of a love for reddit, but because it was the only group for that community. Show them Lemmy and some could migrate, even if slowly.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Mostly everyone who will try kbin/lemmy as an alternative to Reddit. Unreal how bad the UI/UX is considering the time they've had to copy Reddit.

Lemmy

  • Posts are randomly added realtime when scrolling the main page making it unbearable
  • Subscribed/trending community list is a weird unaligned logo+text instead of a normal scrollable list

Kbin

  • How the fuck do you navigate to your subscribed "magazines"? The magazines tab just shows you list of everything and going under your subscriptions shows posts from every magazine I am subscribed to instead of letting me click on the specific magazine

"Fediverse"

  • Content propagation from other instances is slow(?) I want to subscribe to [email protected] but beehaw still can't find it - maybe I don't understand it well enough and it's just a temporary issue
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

your fediverse problem is because kbin.social had to temporarily defederate because its hardware couldn't keep up with demand

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sure a lot of people will go back to reddit. But a sizebale amount will stay and that's enough for lemmy to get a foothold. I won't be returning to reddit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I expect a lot of people to go back, and I can't deny that if too many people decide to go back I'll probably drift away too; hoping that the blackouts are indefinite so people stay on here and get acclimated enough to decide that this is better than Reddit (or at least has more potential)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm the same way. Its really all about user content. If the Lemmy userbase doesn't have a lot to offer after the blackout then I'll probably go back

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me I plan on replacing it entirely and staying. Do I think this place is going to ultimately usurp reddit no. Do I think that lemmy will be able to provide for me everything I used to get on reddit maybe but certainly not immediately. But it's nice to be in a smaller setting it's nice to have less drama and I honestly just prefer fed style now that I understand it. Getting rid of suits in charge and ads in our faces is more than enough to keep me here even if there's not as much content.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The Twitter > Mastodon tech migration felt similar, if not smaller, and I’m much happier on Mastodon now. Less toxic, more positive. I don’t miss Twitter at all. Hopefully this migration is similar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think prob half of the people who give lemmy a chance, I think we're just a vocal minority, most people who post on Reddit and the enthusiasts that give a damn about design and shit, so that's why a ton of subs a going dark, but most of the people probably don't care, some of them are still going to join lemmy(hence the 50%) but there just isn't enough content

changing to lemmy has completely changed how it use this type of app, 70% of the posts were pics/vids, but here there's a bigger focus of text and the amount of pics are closer to 20%

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I’ve noticed the decrease in pictures and certainly video in favor of a lot of text. Needs a bit more balance it will get there as people figure the tools out and create the content.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This has been the push I’ve needed to leave. I hope to stay away. I spent too much time there doomscrolling and hope Lemmy’s format prevents me from that waste of my time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

To be honest I came here because of the blackout. I intend to stay. I have already been more active here than in years lurking on Reddit!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The vast majority, but more important than the number of people who go back are what kinds of users go back, and most will be lowest common denominator ones who are just there to troll and shitpost. The quality of content and moderating will definitely go down and stay that way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Probably most refugees will go back but hopefully not a so small minority will continue to use Lemmy or only Lemmy.

Probably a second wave will migrate at the beginning of July because I don't think that 2 days of "abstinence" will change to much.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Too soon to say how the situation will evolve, first of all I would like to see if Reddit doesn't at least partially retrace its steps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The real test will be when the apps go dark at the end of June.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have no desire to go back to Reddit full time. It's still a great resource when looking up solutions, but I will not be browsing it.

I used maybe 5 at most different subs. Half related to hockey. There's no real loss.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe they come, check it out, decide it's not for them right now, but come back to it the next time reddit fucks up. It'll all be fine. There's plenty of content to be had here even if it will take a while for the super niche communities to really blossom. I don't plan to go back to reddit for casual browsing ever except to check in on some subreddits that haven't made the jump yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For my part, I am here to stay on Lemmy, and will be deleting my Reddit accounts. The quality of the content on Reddit has gotten pretty bad this past year or so. Too many ads, too many suggestions for SubReddits that I am not interested in -- but their algorithm "thinks" I would be interested on account of the fact that this SubReddit they keep recommending to me has a million subscribers and would likely keep me engaged with their platform.

I joined Mastodon last year and I love it so much, I swear I will never participate in a corporate-owned social network ever again. Mastodon has mostly satisfied my need for surrogate human interaction, but now that everyone is abandoning Reddit for Lemmy, I think I will join Lemmy too.

I am here to stay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I hear you, but I'll tell you what. I haven't had a serious issue. There's been the occasional hiccup, but I've been on reddit for what 15 years or whatever, and lemmy is doing much better than reddit did in early years.

I'm here for the long haul, I enjoy this experience more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure if I prefer Lemmy but I just don't want to return to Reddit. If they reverted all the changes AND completed changed leadership? Maybe, but it's a big maybe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I am still lurking on reddit, while using Lemmy. Frankly, Lemmy is pre-Eternal September, so everyone is nice and the community is cool. But reddit is still a massive repository of info. I think once we hit July and my 3PA goes offline, i will be mostly on Lemmy. Suspect this will be the case for most lemmings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reddit is like the abusive lover we can't leave.

I've been hurt again and again and again over the years. This was the last straw. Even if they cave, it'll only be temporary.

I'll continue to use reddit data in searches, but I'll no longer participate in the discussions or offer my opinions/experience there.

I forked PDS and re-wrote all my comments, then delete all my accounts. There's no turning back.

As for sticking with Lemmy... who knows. But I'm going to give it a solid go.

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