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[–] [email protected] 97 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (28 children)

Germany equating its historic debt to Jewish people with support for a particular state is an absolutely disgusting distortion of the German obligation of remembrance.

Just like this, they throw under the bus any anti-Zionist Jew.

Honestly, when it comes to Israel/Palestine, the German state should just do what their other genocide victim, Namibia, told them to do and Shut. The. Fuck. Up. Stay the fuck out of it. Say the honorable thing that you will abide by the rulings of international courts. Provide humanitarian aid, help refugees and displaced people. Be a ray of light and humanity, not a stickler for rules and definitions. Don't be so goddamn fucking German for a change.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (6 children)

What this person said.

~ sincerely, a German

(Seriously though, the situation here is intense. Our minister of education is currently under pressure to resign by the scientific community (which she refuses to do) because her ministry was looking for ways to defund / revoke grants to 400 university researchers who had criticized the way in which a pro-Palestinian protest was handled. That's all it takes.)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

its historic debt to Jewish people

One would assume this debt would be repaid with German lands and monies, rather than land and money looted from Arabs a continent away.

Honestly, when it comes to Israel/Palestine, the German state should just do what their other genocide victim, Namibia, told them to do and Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

Yeah, crazy how the Germans are full throated supporters of Israel, but you never see them waving big Nambia flags and asserting the rights of African state sovereignty. I'm forced to wonder why, as I flip through my history book of "German Prime Ministers After 1949".

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The German state doesn't recognise Palestine as a state currently, so probably not.
Only a few countries west of the former Iron Curtain recognise Palestine (Iceland and Sweden, and as of this year Norway, Ireland, and Spain)

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 5 months ago (26 children)

Germany, there's a time and place for everything. This is like supporting a "sovereign citizen's " right to freedom during a murderous rampage. It's giving "blue lives matter" during George Floyd's murder.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago

How about affirming the two-state solution. You know, the one that everyone sensible has been pushing for to resolve this conflict.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (59 children)

The new Nazis and the old Nazis teaming up is a sight to behold.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (8 children)

This is idiotic. Gandhi hated that Pakistan split off and said that he recognized their existence but would never recognize their “right” to exist.

That’s not even an international policy. Does Castile have a right to exist? Does Kashmir? Does Kurdistan? Why doesn’t Germany demand the same for others?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What happens if they affirmed that both Israel and Palestine's right to exist?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Wow, so all the jews have to do is start genociding, and all of a sudden Germany realizes, 'hey these guys aren't so bad after all!'

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

It's not the jews. It's zionists who would love to make those synonymous.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Man, I hate this "ThE jEwS" crap... Zionist Israel is not "the Jews" and equating them is actually quite antisemitic.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

Israel can have the Gaza strip if Palestine gets to take control of the rest of Israel. Problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Exist? Okay sure, why not.

Bomb a Population to a pulp? FUCK NO!

And thats why I will NEVER vote for any of these fucks again! My Party won't make it into the Bundestag? I DON'T CARE! Because the other Party's won't represent me anyway, so I can easily vote for my small Party which at least represents me!

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