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Jeep aims first EV at Tesla with new Wrangler-like EV coming soon (electrek.co)

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[+] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Right? I thought cars would get smaller as I grew up

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The old land yachts of the 60s and 70s were gigantic. They only had to get smaller because they couldn't keep up with fuel economy. But now that they're going electric and fuel economy isn't a concern, it seems they have no reason to go small.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Depends on where, in the UK, the old Land Rovers are tiny compared to what's out now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I think the problem is, as soon as some (domestic in the case of US because of the recent tariff) automaker makes a cheap electric small car that's got room for 4 and 60-150 miles in range is gonna realize holy shit that's 90% of the driving out there and will drastically undercut the premium market. tens of millions only drive a few dozen miles away from home for most of their activity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I dunno. Even growing up, American cars were always bigger than European cars. In fact I'd argue the cars from the rest of the world grew to try and fit the sensibilities of America as that's a huge market

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Aren't you describing the Bolt?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Which they discontinued, and now the "smallest" offering they have is an electric Blazer. Although I guess you can argue the Blazer is a compact SUV. I think only the Nissan Leaf is left on the compact car category.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's plenty of smaller EVs to choose from if SUVs aren't your thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

In the US? Where?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Volkwagen ID. 3 for example. Tesla model 3 ain't that big either. I'm not an expert on the US car markets.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Volkswagen doesn't sell the ID.3 in the US.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I thought I read somewhere that the ID.3 arrives Stateside next year. Am I crazy?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Our options are basically the model 3 or the Leaf. Unless you go crazy expensive with Lucid, and they aren't small. I was hoping you knew something I didn't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Hyundai also offers the Ioniq 6, but that has a footprint and form factor similar to the Porsche Panamera.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately the sedan form factors are limited right now, but looking like an SUV doesn't mean it's definitely a massive car. There's small suvs and large ones. You can have suvs that are even smaller length and width wise than many sedans. Like take a Subaru impreza as an example, in the compact car class. Length is 176.2 inches and width is 70.1 inches. Now let's take a smaller electric SUV, like the Hyundai Kona electric. Length is 171.5 and width is 71.9, so significantly shorter and barely wider than a compact car.

A lot of the electric suvs are in a compact car form factor in terms of their space footprint, but are just trying to get that SUV taller boxy look since that's what is most popular with car buyers right now for some reason. They aren't all like these massive Chevy Suburban type SUVS (length 225.7 inches and width 81 inches for reference).

But anyways the smallest ones in the US are probably like the Nissan leaf, tesla model 3, Hyundai Kona electric, Fiat 500e, mini Cooper electric, Volkswagen id.4, Chevy bolt (was a good option, skipping the 2024 model year though and releasing a redesign in 2025), Kia ev3 launching this year and will be even smaller than it's current options, some of which are petty compact already. Hopefully we'll keep getting more options. I've always been annoyed when Europe gets cool compact options that they don't bother to sell in the US.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'd kill for an electric hot hatch with ~500 km range, and that supports 800V DCFC.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Me too. I've been holding out for a good hatchback. Europe always seems to get the best hatchbacks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

That or an EV revival of an old JDM. Imagine bringing back the R34 as an electric vehicle...🤤

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Me too! I have a Niro EV now, which I like, but it's still bigger than I need and isn't a great road tripper. Comfortable, but slow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If it's actually a Wrangler-like then yeah, yay, honestly

Wranglers are great off-road vehicles. Is it what most people use them for? No. Does that mean the option shouldn't exist? No.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Unironically though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

In what parallel universe is a Wrangler, electric or otherwise, a competitor to Tesla? Perhaps the article mangled the meaning behind what Stellantis said, but the notion that Jeep is going to convert Tesla owners to Wrangler owners en masse is laughable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Starting at $78K! For a Jeep? Best of luck with that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It'll sell fine. Modern jeeps are for people who want to look outdoorsy but can't get a Subaru because people might think they're a lesbian (and, in this case, can't get a tesla because people might think they're a librul). The wagoneer is doing OK, the 4xe trims are doing OK, and none of them are going offroad any further than the dirt trailhead parking lot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Looks like a Jaguar F-pace from all sides except the front.