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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No, no, they needed them back then too.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Me from Windows 8 onwards: “Oh, wow. I hate this. I don’t even want to use it, let alone develop for it.”

Pretty sure most other developers feel the same way.

[–] Tramort 3 points 5 months ago

Oh my God. You just perfectly captured my own thoughts, too. And at exactly the same time! Windows 8.

Now when I'm forced to use Windows it's unfamiliar, unhelpful, uncomfortable, and unwelcome.

[–] SmartmanApps 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've never used 8, but I liked 10. I especially liked the built-in anti-virus - there was noticeable performance improvement once I got rid of the 3rd party stuff. Absolutely hate 11 though - I'm planning on rolling back soon.

[–] xav 3 points 5 months ago

Spoiler : (s)he in fact never did roll back.

[–] SmartmanApps 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah, the last time I posted about AI stuff I got my first-ever negative net votes here, but it was news and I posted it. Same here. Alvin Ashcraft also posted a link to it, and I said to him that from what I've seen so far, this isn't going to work out any better for them than it did last time. Maybe next time they might learn to ask developers first, BEFORE saying "Hey developers - we need you!".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The last time Microsoft really needed Windows developers was when it asked them to build a new type of application that could work across phones, PCs, tablets, Xbox consoles, and headsets like the HoloLens.

It was all part of a larger effort to transform Windows with a new interface for touch-friendly apps, designed to rival the iPad.

Developers didn’t flock to universal Windows apps, and Microsoft eventually abandoned its touch-friendly UI in favor of a more traditional desktop in Windows 10.

It’s adding AI models and tools directly into Windows for this first generation of Copilot Plus PCs — laptops that have powerful neural processing unit (NPU) chips to accelerate AI tasks.

The big selling points are better battery life, better performance, and the promise of AI features inside Windows and the apps you use every day.

But for all of this to work, Microsoft needs developers to adapt their apps again — and get people excited to use Windows.


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