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[–] [email protected] 159 points 6 months ago (3 children)

My friends and I still use TS3. The audio quality and voice activation is better than Discord's, and the desktop app doesn't take ten fucking gigabytes of RAM to run.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Good to hear ts3 is still rockin.

If you use discord, access with a web browser. No need to ever download discord the app

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nah bro that's just the memory leaks, your supposed to force close and reopen it every so often so the OS cleans up after their shitty application

[–] starman 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Memory is cheap nowadays, so that's a feature /s

[–] Hexarei 14 points 6 months ago

I bought the whole RAM, I'm gonna use the whole RAM

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 6 months ago (6 children)

It seems many don't remember why there was a ts2 mass extinction. It was because of the horrendous ts3 licensing.

Why the masses went to yet another closed system like discord I'll never understand while being very satisfied with mumble/murmur.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The absolute largest group of players in any game stuck with Mumble. That would be The Goonswarm Federation in EvE Online. We have just over 25,000 people, and well over 100,000 characters in the Alliance. In fact, AFAIK, all of the major alliances have to use Mumble because it allows more than 100 people in a room

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Once Discord embraces enshittification, we will meet again. :)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

Mumble better

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Ironic that traditionally Nitro makes things happen faster, probably in this case as well

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Discord enshittification is well under way, just this week I have started seeing ads in the client just above the voice channel status in the bottom left. Cancelled my Nitro immediately, no point if they are going to shove ads in my face anyway.

Currently looking at alternatives, Revolt looks promising, and can be self hosted.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Shit, that’s a real post. The whole account is just talking about how nobody uses TeamSpeak anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Here I am self-hosting Mumble for friends & using Mumble at work. Old tech was built to actually be good on resources.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

+1 for Mumble. I set up a load of Android PoC devices with a Mumble server and it's honestly like having walkie-talkies that work over the Intertubes.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Mumble is super popular with EVE Online players still, no? Because of the support for a large number of users in a single room

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I remember moving to mumble from teams peak because it allowed pretty cool levels of configuration.

Back in the late 00s and early 00s I was doing world of warcraft raiding. I had the server setup to have one key for main raid and another to talk to only officers. Quite useful especially in bigger raids.

Also as I recall for any remotely large ts server you needed to pay. The self hosted one was always gimped. Mumble you could self host with no limits.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Also supports positional audio which was very cool wheb first introduced for voip

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yep, Mumble is the most common, and there are still a couple groups that use Teamspeak.

Discord caps at 100 people in a call while I've seen good Mumble servers handle over 800.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Can confirm. Goonswarm still needs Mumble because we have thousands of players that need to listen to the weekly fireside.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Me, the mystery dude in the game server who doesn't have a mic, doesn't use any voice features, never text chats, but always shows up and plays.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Omg.. he finally speaks

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (6 children)

The real question is: How in the world did Ventrillo continue to exist after TeamSpeak came along?

Vent was an object lesson in hostile UX. It sounded like shit, changing any kind of setting (even basic things like individual volumes) was a a gymnastics routine, and mics constantly clipped despite settings.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Vent was super lightweight, and easy to use. It's why it lasted so long.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Vi sitter här i venten och spelar lite DotA...

it’s gonna be stuck in my head all day now

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

A lot of WoW people used vent and so people just used what they were used to

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Unpopular opinion, ventrilo was better than team speak. It didn’t sound like crap especially when you had good server codecs and it was extremely easy to use and lightweight.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

I don't think that's unpopular at all, I only ever used vent in highschool and uni, some of the groups I ran with even went back to vent from TS becauae of the sound quality. It was simple and easy to use and pretty much everyone had it.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago

No joke last time I launched team speak was scary lmao. I didn't have my server anymore so my buddies and I joined a random one. As we were chilling and gaming random people joined in and called us the n word and then left over the course of our session lol definitely felt like a 360 CoD lobby

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago

Vi sitter här på venten och spelar lite DOTA

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Ventrilo was the shit back then.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (2 children)

drop version 5 and people might start fucking using it again.

Mumble even though it's literally dead, is a better platform.

Matrix and XMPP both support this shit also. This is literally a skill issue.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Oh, I still use Teamspeak! It's very nice for small groups up to 32 people (after that one has to use the paid tiers). I do not use X though.

Maybe I'll give Mumble a shot, so I can integrate it with Matrix/Synapse/Element.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

people will come back if the bloat/ad-trend of discord continues... hopefully?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (7 children)

nah I'll just continue to mod my client until the death of it. If discord ever decides to ban mods, then most likely yeah I'll move. Default discord is so fucking bloated and unusable.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Used teamspeak untill me and my crew switched to mumble. They all use discord now though so fuck the traitors.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

Still hosting TS as the primary place my friends record things because of the audio quality and especially reliability compared to Discord, but not so much for hangouts anymore. Got Mumble in the back pocket in case the licensing goes to crap though

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (13 children)

I refuse to use discord, it is basically malware. Selfhosting is the only way, and TS3 works great for that.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (18 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Multiplay.co.uk stopped offering servers, and Discord was all new, bright and shiny so we switched to Disc. Was sad to see it go tbh

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

I'm absolutely still using teamspeak. Nice and light, and it let's us run a soundboard plugin that let's you have unlimited length audio clips. I just wish they'd update the plugin to support the 64-bit version.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I still self host my TS3 for my nerd herd, and as an EvE online player (currently trying to win, but thats hard), you have to be fluent in all voip solutions as they all have different requirments and say a lot about your group.

Discord - small group, utilizing free services, may have an auth tool, used to keep in contact with people from old groups. Remember kids, if the product is free, you are the product

TS3 - mid-sized group (100-1000 players) requires a real IT team, will have an authentication system and generally will have their shit together. Ease of set up is handy, but admin user accounts can break servers.

Mumble - Welcome to the big leagues. (1K+ players) The resources you require now require resources in meat-space and are rather substantial. You need real IT security and people on a payroll. It will drive your admins nuts for about a week setting everything up, but once its done, you wont have to touch it again.

Ventrilo - old school WoW player...

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