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Submersible used to take tourists to view wreck of Titanic goes missing in Atlantic Ocean, sparking search and rescue mission.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’ll take “Most Terrifying Ways to Die” for $1000, Ken

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I initially thought this post was about a reddit sub going missing, and I was very confused about why anyone would pay to be part of it, or why there would be a search.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Unless they are coming up on their own, it takes about 2.5 hours to get down to the wreck, and what I've read online is that these subs carry like edit:12 hours of oxygen. Docs on the submarine show 96 hours of oxygen, this was wrong of me to guess

They need to get a towing vessel to the area, they need to get the rescue sub down to the bottom, winch up, and get back up. 6 hours of work once you're there. That means they have less than 4.5 hours to get on station. It's 1000 miles from Boston. Ain't no ship in the world sailing at under 200 knots.

Bad news only from this. They gotta get up on their own.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don’t think the host ship they depart from has an emergency vessel ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'd hope that they would, but if they are relying on the coast guard to help out, they aren't gonna get there in time

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The BBC article says the sub usually dives with a 4 day supply of oxygen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The issue is less the oxygen and more the carbon dioxide removal. assuming the sun has good scrubbers to clean out the co2 then okay, however it can depend how they are powered. There are comparisons to the Apollo 13 situation here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh, here's a question from the bbc article in question:

The vessel weighs 10,432 kg (23,000 lbs) and, according to the website, can reach depths of up to 4,000m and has 96 hours of life support available for a crew of five.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they must have edited it since then. I have updated my post to reflect the actual info

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great! I'd still not at all want to be stuck there. Also, just loosing contact with the sub feels like a majorly bad sign.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Id say that it indicates a catastrophic failure most likely, a far more preferable fate if you ask me rather than sitting on the bottom waiting for air to run out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh totally, I'd rather die quickly in a submarine than slowly. Another reason to not be in a submarine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've read a probable scenario about accidents with small DSVs in the book Below(Edit) the Edge of Darkness (about marine biology of bioluminescence and the tech developed by the author to film/record it):

There was a small leak in a valve, used for emergency operation IIRC and the author noticed that going down - she was still light enough to ascend but she said had she been a few hundred meters deeper, she never would have made it back up due to the extra weight.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What you're describing is similar to the leading theory for what happened to the USS Thresher. Flooding occurred and then when the sub went to emergency blow its ballast to surface, ice formed in the piping blocking the pressurized release of ballast water, causing the sub to sink uncontrollably. There's a good gif doing a better job explaining it on the wiki. Interestingly, the evidence used to determine this theory was gathered by Robert Ballard the famous oceanographer who then went on to be the first to find the remains of the Titanic. It all come full circle!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They really protesting reddit. That sub decided to go dark forever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow - those tourists paid $250,000 to be on that submersible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It reads like there are no tourists on this trip, just crew. Or the firm is cruel in only caring about retrieving the crew.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I felt like they were calling the passengers crew as like, an umbrella term? The one guy I've seen named is a tech billionaire.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Trapped in a sub amongst the wreckage of the Titanic is nightmare fuel. I don't think I would have even came up with that on my own, I thought they only send robotic subs down that far.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had no idea that the Titanic made it that close to North America and/or that icebergs are that far South (relatively) in the Atlantic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Would it make you feel any better if I told you that's probably not a threat for much longer? I'm not a scientist, but my understanding is that spot is probably at a gentle simmer by now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

TBF I don't think they planned on seeing an iceberg that far south either.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

$250,000 a seat tourist submarine... The ocean can have them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean no disrespect to the dead and all, but this has the same vibes as those rich idiots plugging up Mt Everest with their corpses.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ, in reading about this, I had been imagining a sleek, high-tech marvel of engineering.

That thing is a slapped-together mess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure the middle is just PVC pipe from the mix-and-match pipe aisle at Home Depot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I would pay $250k to go down in a sub with parts sourced from home Depot /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's nothing wrong with that at all.

The US military literally uses Xbox controllers for a lot of their drones and tech.

It's kind of a rare move by the Pentagon of actually spend smartly.

Why spend millions on R&D to develop something that already exists and has been iterated based on massive operator feedback a dozen times over decades? It's literally a platform that has been designed and honed to operate vehicles of every shape and size.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just being bolted into that thing is nightmare fuel.