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Carnivores aren't evil because they don't have a choice in the matter. They are acting on instinct and do not care for ethics. Humans have a choice and moral compass, yet still create unnecessary mass death for personal gain.

As a hypothetical, if lab-grown meat becomes viable and scalable, thus offering a 1:1 replacement for meat, wouldn't we be evil if we were to reject it just because it didn't come from a dead animal? If no, why not? If yes, how dissimilar does the meat replacement have to be before humans stop being evil?

I actually eat meat fairly regularly, I'm just curious what other people think about this.

Who said anything about inherently evil? First, evil is a very religiously loaded term, harm or suffering is a better one. And we can absolutely morally judge a behaviour without making sweeping moral judgements about the person or being doing the behaviour.

Edit: spelling

lions don't have tofu and supermarkets

I wonder if there's any difference at all between a lion and a human in terms of reasoning. Like does a typical human have the capability to plan outcomes and make decisions based on expectations for the long term?

Evil is a societal definition. You're seeing the beginning of the definition change to include the suffering of animals. The only way it will take hold permanently is if humans end up more empathetic in the future. The current batch don't have it in them.

We evolved to be able to eat a wide variety of foods. It's part of why humans have been so successful at adapting to different climates, and it's the reason we have a choice in our diets that other animals do not. If we can choose whether or not to eat animals, and if we choose to eat them purely because we like the taste better than the vegan alternatives, then we're placing a higher value on our own pleasure than the lives of these animals.

@Neon @nume bro with the taiwan flag talking about how the majority must be right. have you ever been to china? >90% of chinese would say taiwan is an integral part of china. do you think before you fucking type? also, you're forcing YOUR moral values onto animals, you pay for them to perpetually bred, raised, tormented, abused and slaughtered but vegans memeing online is """FORCING""" moral views onto others? jesus christ you're dense.

If your moral values are that you shouldn't kill sentient animals just for pleasure, we should be on the same page, right?